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jarrod said:

snfr said:

 You act like one of those who think that Move didn't boost any hardware at all (in the west), by looking at which console has been in 3rd place the last 6 weeks should tell you that Move is far away from being a fail.

Er, Wii's problems are pretty self-contained and have little to do with Move's performance (good or bad).  One tells you about nothing about the other, so I'm not sure what your point is?

Of course Move doesn't have much to do with the Wii being in 3rd place, if Wii's sales would be as high as in recent years it would have already been 1st again in weekly sales 2 or 3 weeks after 360slim launched. My point simply was: before Move launced PS3 was in 3rd place (weekly sales), since Move's launch it's 2nd.

I'm not trying to prove that Move was a huge success, because it wasn't, but it has done better than many people claim.



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PlayStation Move sells 49k with a 35% sell-through.



snfr said:

Well, no console had a price cut this year in Japan 

Older model PS3's went "open price" last summer.  



snfr said:
jarrod said:

snfr said:

 You act like one of those who think that Move didn't boost any hardware at all (in the west), by looking at which console has been in 3rd place the last 6 weeks should tell you that Move is far away from being a fail.

Er, Wii's problems are pretty self-contained and have little to do with Move's performance (good or bad).  One tells you about nothing about the other, so I'm not sure what your point is?

Of course Move doesn't have much to do with the Wii being in 3rd place, if Wii's sales would be as high as in recent years it would have already been 1st again in weekly sales 2 or 3 weeks after 360slim launched. My point simply was: before Move launced PS3 was in 3rd place (weekly sales), since Move's launch it's 2nd.

I'm not trying to prove that Move was a huge success, because it wasn't, but it has done better than many people claim.


Okay, but Move has little to do with PS3 being in 2nd, because Move has little to do with Wii's decline.  So... again, I'm not seeing the relevance of these various things you seem to be trying to relate, they're coincidence at best?



gaffer41397 said:

http://ascii.jp/elem/000/000/565/565908/

PlayStation Move sells 49k with a 35% sell-through.

so 3 out of 4 points ethomaz criticized TheSource for Japan Preview were wrong.

"ethomaz
4 days ago

Preview looks off again.

- Move was sold out in most of stores in Japan.
- Naruto and Vanquish sold what the preview said just in first day.
- Wii should be below 14k again.
- PS3 is more like 40k than 25.

So why preview undestimate PS3 and its games every week???"

good job! I agree with kopstudent89 that objective criticism is one thing but the post above is not one of them.



MikeB predicts that the PS3 will sell about 140 million units by the end of 2016 and triple the amount of 360s in the long run.

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saicho said:
gaffer41397 said:

http://ascii.jp/elem/000/000/565/565908/

PlayStation Move sells 49k with a 35% sell-through.

so 3 out of 4 points ethomaz criticized TheSource for Japan Preview were wrong.

"ethomaz
4 days ago

Preview looks off again.

- Move was sold out in most of stores in Japan.
- Naruto and Vanquish sold what the preview said just in first day.
- Wii should be below 14k again.
- PS3 is more like 40k than 25.

So why preview undestimate PS3 and its games every week???"

good job! I agree with kopstudent89 that objective criticism is one thing but the post above is not one of them.

I were wrong (first time this year with PS3 numbers on Japan).



jarrod said:
snfr said:
jarrod said:

snfr said:

 You act like one of those who think that Move didn't boost any hardware at all (in the west), by looking at which console has been in 3rd place the last 6 weeks should tell you that Move is far away from being a fail.

Er, Wii's problems are pretty self-contained and have little to do with Move's performance (good or bad).  One tells you about nothing about the other, so I'm not sure what your point is?

Of course Move doesn't have much to do with the Wii being in 3rd place, if Wii's sales would be as high as in recent years it would have already been 1st again in weekly sales 2 or 3 weeks after 360slim launched. My point simply was: before Move launced PS3 was in 3rd place (weekly sales), since Move's launch it's 2nd.

I'm not trying to prove that Move was a huge success, because it wasn't, but it has done better than many people claim.


Okay, but Move has little to do with PS3 being in 2nd, because Move has little to do with Wii's decline.  So... again, I'm not seeing the relevance of these various things you seem to be trying to relate, they're coincidence at best?

As I said it doesn't have much to do with Wii's decline, so I'm basically saying the same as you^^.

PS3 sales increased after Move launch, that was my point actually



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