Play call of duty? The only COD I played was MW2 and I really don't play that game at all. I played Killzone 2 for a couple of months so I think I'm titled to my opinion. The Maps were small no denying that and it was hard to find a game that wasnt a 32 player game. The wasn't enough weapons and plan and simple in the bomb mode type games I forget what they were called you just ran to the point and had a huge gaggle feast. You can have you opinion about this game but don't attack me with your childish post because something I said upset you.

Don't worry he couldn't sway my opinion either way, killzone 2 was an average game and this game looks better. I purchased Killzone 2 and got my money worth. I see no reason why Killzone 3 won't deliver the same

@ fame of course you would like killzone 3 seeing as you sucked at killzone 2 judging by your post which is why I recommended call of duty. 

@leatherhat you have no idea how many people I recommended call of duty to over killzone 2, see killzone is a game that take skill and determination and more than anything time to get used to, 90% of fps gamers this gen suck ass at fps and can't take that, so basically it's me sparing true fans of the series a forum full of whiny bitches crying about how hard/broken the game is, not our fault you guys suck and are to stupid to know you don't have to play full player games on the small maps.

of course this didn't work seeing as killzone 3 will basically be killzone 2 for dummies, but my problem is with the noobs that would honestly sit and say killzone 2 is casual and this looks hardcore. that's my biggest proble with these call of duty scrubs that have plagued the fps genre, they don't want to put in the time and effort to actually be good at a game but they still want to be considered hardcore and skilled gamers..... no sir this is will not take more skill than killzone 2 and that's NOT an opinion.

people who I would recommend this game to is people who I think poses the skill to put fourth the effort required for the game and or won't blame the game their own short comings, so if you can imagine I recommended killzone 2 to a very small amount of people, but I'd take 1000 hardcore skilled gamers who know how to play over 8 million scrubs who just want to have teh funz any goddamn day of the week

and @fame I wasn't trying to put you off the game, buy it and enjoy your self it was made with people like you in mind, GG have clearly shown that they could give a shit about the people that actually gives a shit about killzone

I don't know what you are talking about. I maxed my stats in killzone 2 which I guess wasn't really hard, I really don't remember the rest of my stats, only that I got that damn trophy. I let you vent though because this obviously got you butt hurt so you can believe what you want. I never trashed killzone, but me saying something like maps being bigger being an upgrade got you on this defensive tyrad which question why I'm even responding to you in the first place. I wish I still had Killzone 2 in my possession so you could see how bad I really am but w/e to each his own. And after reading your entire post people like me? you don't know me from a hole in the wall and I like killzone 2. But more guns, and bigger maps are welcome additions isn't it? I actually have more timed logged on Killzone 2 then I do MW2 which was the first COD I ever played.

"Call me crazy but I see Killzone as a casual FPS. I like what I'm am seeing. There was no strategy involved in the last game, the maps were too small, there was too many players, all you had to do is chuck grenades and you got a ton of kills. It looks a lot better to me." - you

"Call me crazy but I see Killzone as a casual FPS" -- I'll start by say saying your CRAZY, and saying killzone 2 was casual is an insult.

 "I like what I'm am seeing." --- of course you do

"There was no strategy involved in the last game," --- bullshit killzone 2 was one the most hardcore tactical skill based shooters release this gen.

"the maps were too small, there was too many players" --- the maps seemed to small because there were to many players, however like I said before no one forced you to play on the smaller maps with the large player count if your are as good as you say you are you'd know this. In fact my clan wouldn't play on the smaller maps like blood gratch, depo, and radec academy unless it was 8v8 max.

  "all you had to do is chuck grenades and you got a ton of kills. It looks a lot better to me"---- that's not the games fault.

so tell me, where dafuck did you say this:

"but me saying something like maps being bigger being an upgrade"

yeah I'm not stupid bro. I would have agreed with you there, but to me the bigger maps means that they can support the larger player count without the game feeling like a cluster fuck, and that's the main beef I have with developers today, they always take away instead of adding, instead of GG saying hey lets increase the map size to support the lager player count which would have been logical, they increased the maps and got rid of the larger player count so now those that enjoy the larger player count have to suffer through a permanent change. but fuck those guys right?

 "But more guns, and bigger maps are welcome additions isn't it" ----of course they are it the logical choice to a sequel, however adding things and then taking away is wrong.

did i miss anything or is there more invisible bullshit in your post I just couldn't see....

If you would have read my other post you would have seen what I said..... My apologies for assuming that you actually read my other post.

To me this gen I played to hardcore tactical shooters, killzone 2 was not one of them. Your taking this to a level it doesn't need to be at. Your language towards me ins't necessary either I didn't once curse at you I would expect the same respect, we are having a discussion if you can't keep you emotions in tact I think this conversation is over. Read my other post then understand why I responded the way I do because unlike you I talked about what I didn't like about the game and you attacked me personal for no reason. Please that's weak sauce.

It is your opinion the game is hardcore, I know a bunch of guys of believe Socom isn't hardcore, It's not something you nor I can prove, so instead of basing your post on facts, or aspects of the game that make it hardcore, you curse and attack me personally.

yeah I have no idea what the hell your talking about I read your post and can't find it. 

and can you name the 2 tactical shooters you played? I wanna see what you consider hardcore and tactical.

 Socom is VERY hardcore,

and re read my post I've said nothing but facts.

oh cursing is what I do I'm sorry, if I'm angry or happy I'll curse just a heads up, nothing personal just who I am. 

The post at the top of page 3. The only games I feel that were really hardcore this gen was operation flashpoint, and Socom. Everything else seems very similar. Now granted Killzone 2 is different from MW2, I never played any other COD so I can't compare but I guess my definition of hardcore is different then others. I see a game all about gun game and teamwork as hardcore. Some people just call flashpoint slow and boring, and I ran across some people who thought socom was dumb. Maybe I should revisit killzone 2 before I lump it into the casual category because I agree MW2 is very casual and killzone 2 and MW2 are very different games.

Don't worry about the cursing part, I took it as personal attacks but after a re-read I see you ment no ill will, just getting your point across. It's all good.

So are you in the beta? I seen on the third video it said killstreak at three. Is their a system like call of duty in place where you get attacks or is it just for xp and what not? I didnt think this game would have killstreaks

yeah the killstreaks are just point based and I am in the public beta starting in a few days