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whatever said:
Jadedx said:

You'll slip up soon and I will get you banned, count on it.

Wow.  I'm shakin.  LOL.  Keep up the attitude and we'll see who gets banned first.


You will.



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whatever said:
Jadedx said:

You'll slip up soon and I will get you banned, count on it.

Wow.  I'm shakin.  LOL.  Keep up the attitude and we'll see who gets banned first.


You $ony fan you...



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Jadedx said:

Blah, blah, blah, more disc space, too hard to compress, blah, blah, blah. If Halo Reach, Fallout, Fable, Gears, Alan Wake and many others can fit on one disk with no problems then there is something wrong with the way they are making their game.

 

Off topic: Why is it that only the people with Sony/Nintendo stuff in their avy's/Sigs post negative stuff on this forum? I doubt this guy even plays his 360 much and thats if he has one.

Assumption is the mother of all fuck ups.

I posted a lot of negative thread about the PS3 too. I also posted a lot of positive thread about the 360 too.  This is a forum, I am entitled to post anything I like that doesn't break any rules. You don't even know me so don't post crap like that.



MrBubbles said:

these must be really shitty developers if they can barely fit a crappy, ugly, 4 hour long game onto a disk.


You just called Platinum games shitty.

You called a game you probably haven't played crappy.

It's one of the best looking multi-platform games being released this year and you called it ugly.

I think you have an agenda.



Bet with Conegamer and AussieGecko that the PS3 will have more exclusives in 2011 than the Wii or 360... or something.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3879752

Doobie_wop said:
MrBubbles said:

these must be really shitty developers if they can barely fit a crappy, ugly, 4 hour long game onto a disk.


You just called Platinum games shitty.

You called a game you probably haven't played crappy.

It's one of the best looking multi-platform games being released this year and you called it ugly.

I think you have an agenda.


Thoroughly amused that YOU would accuse someone of having an agenda.



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Lyrikalstylez said:

Why would you even want that anyways??

Do you actually speak japanese, I highly doubt you do, So whats the point

Never heard of subs? Original language English or Spanish subs is the way to go for me.

I will negate the insults from the other X360 fanboy's since you all are not worth my time.



stuff I said

Poor explanation on my part, I meant that they didn't give devs the option do release DVD and HD DVD versions of games. But the HD DVD drive being an add-on only enforces my point that MS wasn't about to pull as bold a move as Sony in the HD media war. They made it clear that they were backing HD DVDs but wouldn't put everything behind it. It would have made their console to expensive. They made a good business move on that since they weren't heavily invested in any HD media.

As for the PS3, yes it needs the Bluray drive with it's hardware set up, but the console specs would have been different if they had chosen to go with a DVD drive.

It's all good, I got ya now.  I think that it's a little different though and the two really can't be compared.  Sony was a major force behind the creation of Blu Ray (not the only one, but definitely one of the bigger if not the biggest), so they really had a vested interest on multiple levels to make Blu Ray mandatory in the PS3, it not only allowed devs as much space as possible to work with the newer architecture of the PS3 (which turns out to be a good move) while also allowing PS3 owners immediate entry into Blu Ray (yes the TV is awefully expensive, but soooo worth it). 

MS on the other hand simply backed HD-DVD's existence, they weren't financially invested in it's survival (Toshiba and NEC were the primary developers of HD-DVD).  Microsoft has been far more interested in promoting and pushing sales digitally, that's been their song and dance since day 1, even while they had an HD-DVD option.  They never really pushed HD-DVD in any way if you think about it.  It was more of a shoehorn approach than a real adoption of the format.

The important factor here is though, current PS3 games are still not maxxing out the capacity of the disc they're on.  Which makes it possible for devs to make monstrous games without really worrying about space restrictions.  That'll be a continuing benefit for the PS3 in the long run.  Whereas, the 360's already hitting 3-disc games.  Not hugely important for gamers, maybe, but printing out discs on a 3:1 ratio could get hairy if it's a hugely popular IP, not to mention starting to cost more and more money.  Sure, not a big issue right now that's been proven to be an issue yet, but the 360 supposedly has what, 4 more years left in it?  Long story short (ok, maybe long story long), while it made it more expensive up front, it actually makes the PS3 much more capable of running the final leg than it's competition, imo.



MrBubbles said:
Doobie_wop said:
MrBubbles said:

these must be really shitty developers if they can barely fit a crappy, ugly, 4 hour long game onto a disk.


You just called Platinum games shitty.

You called a game you probably haven't played crappy.

It's one of the best looking multi-platform games being released this year and you called it ugly.

I think you have an agenda.


Thoroughly amused that YOU would accuse someone of having an agenda.

Who am I? I admit to liking the PS3 more, I also criticize the faults that follow my PS3. Just because I dislike certain things about other consoles, it doesn't mean I don't enjoy playing them or that I don't want their faults to be improved. I don't have a secret agenda and if I did I wouldn't let it warp my judgement so much that I'd be willing to slam a critically acclaimed developer and a game that I haven't played yet. 



Bet with Conegamer and AussieGecko that the PS3 will have more exclusives in 2011 than the Wii or 360... or something.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3879752

Bungie seemed to do just fine with Halo Reach, and Mass Effect 2 didnt suffer by being on two



Hero_time88 said:

It happened with FFXIII and it recently happened again with Sengoku Basara 3.

With Basara 3, that was purely a PR excuse.  The Wii version only takes about 4GB of game data, there was way more than enough space for dual language tracks on a DVD... more likely they didn't want to pay for rights to use the (expensive) JP voice cast overseas for such a niche game.  

That's also why Basara 3 had no online play or DLC, because it wasn't deemed necessary for Japan and the game was too niche in the west to warrant the cost.  The fact that the Wii exclusive Samurai Warriors 3 managed both dual voice and online play/DLC just adds insult to injury. :/