Yeah, the Fetus not having committed any crimes really is a bullet proof rationalization.

Honestly, the real problem Pro-Lifers have is the "except in case of rape or incest" clause they throw in to sound reasonable to moderates.

How does rape or incest make that "child" any less of a person or innocent?

I mean working under those definitions, you are basically murdering someone because their father was a huge dick.  (Or their mother's brother.)

That's... just stupid.

I hate to play the Hitler analaogy game, but working off the pro-lifer definition abortions really are like the holocaust... if not worse.   However by that same token, it'd be like saying "Gassing jews is ok if their fathers murdered or raped someone."

What?

Just a tangent though... I suppose you could justify that under a "Schindler's List" clause.  Rather then take a principled chance, try and fight a fight you can win and save as many people as you can.

I thought the key indicator of sociopathy was sadism towards animals as a child?

Yes and no.

Sociopaths are likely to be mean to animals as children... because it's a sign that such things haven't been developing.

That's not to say they won't "eventually get it" before they hit the age where that kind of thing is gone for good.

Kid's who do those things are tagged with "Sociopathic behavior" but aren't actually called sociopaths until like 15 or 16... when it's generally too late.

Killing with my hands and against the law those that unjustly executed a person I love would be a revenge, not death penalty. While doing it according to a law would be my point that who propose a strict principle and law must accept the strictest application of them on themselves, otherwise they are in bad faith. For public officials guilty of such irreparable errors, in ancient Greece, but also in the late Middle ages, they inflicted the choice between going into exile and being stripped of all their possessions or being executed (Dante Alighieri himself was sentenced to this), maybe they were a lot less hypocritical than current death penalty advocates.

certain criminals lose their right to life by infringing on others.  an unborn child has done nothing other than come into existance.

Um, what about the sixth commandment?

never heard of it...?  is it the one about fucking your neighbours wife?  cause i dont really see what that has to do with this discussion...

Two wrongs do not make a right. As a modern society we really should have no room for capital punishment. Even when somebody is correctly convicted and given the death penalty the state then torture them through the judicial system. All those things aside humans make to many mistakes to make life and death decisions and as we know a lot of people have died in error sorry does not cut it.

its pretty wrong to keep people caged up as animals for years on end, so i guess we should just release criminals after convicting them.  since anything else would just be plain wrong.

you shall not murder?

There is a reason it is the word murder rather than kill.