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Rath said:
rocketpig said:
sapphi_snake said:
rocketpig said:

 

It all comes down to whether you consider if a fetus is a human being or not. And whether you consider that a woman should be forced to go through pregancy or not (a very unpleasant and disgusting experience). I don't think I can tell a woman to go through such an ordel if she doesn't want to.

Cocnerning the death penalty, we're talking about an actual human being, not an embryo.

I kinda figured the pro-choice/anti-death penalty crowd would use that reasoning.

On the other hand, how do the pro-life/pro-death penalty advocates defend their stance?

Yep, if you're pro-choice/anti-death penalty and consider a fetus in its early stages human you would have to do quite some moral manuevering.

Pro-life/pro-death penalty I guess consider a fetus an innocent?

Yeah, the Fetus not having committed any crimes really is a bullet proof rationalization.

Honestly, the real problem Pro-Lifers have is the "except in case of rape or incest" clause they throw in to sound reasonable to moderates.

 

How does rape or incest make that "child" any less of a person or innocent?

I mean working under those definitions, you are basically murdering someone because their father was a huge dick.  (Or their mother's brother.)

That's... just stupid.

 

I hate to play the Hitler analaogy game, but working off the pro-lifer definition abortions really are like the holocaust... if not worse.   However by that same token, it'd be like saying "Gassing jews is ok if their fathers murdered or raped someone."

What?

 

Just a tangent though... I suppose you could justify that under a "Schindler's List" clause.  Rather then take a principled chance, try and fight a fight you can win and save as many people as you can.