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sapphi_snake on 18 October 2010
rocketpig said:

Question for a few of you out there: how do you rationalize pro-choice/anti-death penalty or pro-life/pro-death penalty? Without an incredible amount of moral maneuvering, it doesn't make sense to me.

I'm kind of in the middle (very pro choice, mildly against the death penalty) but only because of financial costs, really. On a morality level, how do you split it down the middle?

It all comes down to whether you consider if a fetus is a human being or not. And whether you consider that a woman should be forced to go through pregancy or not (a very unpleasant and disgusting experience). I don't think I can tell a woman to go through such an ordel if she doesn't want to.

Cocnerning the death penalty, we're talking about an actual human being, not an embryo.



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rocketpig on 18 October 2010
sapphi_snake said:
rocketpig said:

Question for a few of you out there: how do you rationalize pro-choice/anti-death penalty or pro-life/pro-death penalty? Without an incredible amount of moral maneuvering, it doesn't make sense to me.

I'm kind of in the middle (very pro choice, mildly against the death penalty) but only because of financial costs, really. On a morality level, how do you split it down the middle?

It all comes down to whether you consider if a fetus is a human being or not. And whether you consider that a woman should be forced to go through pregancy or not (a very unpleasant and disgusting experience). I don't think I can tell a woman to go through such an ordel if she doesn't want to.

Cocnerning the death penalty, we're talking about an actual human being, not an embryo.

I kinda figured the pro-choice/anti-death penalty crowd would use that reasoning.

On the other hand, how do the pro-life/pro-death penalty advocates defend their stance?




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Khuutra on 18 October 2010
rocketpig said:

I kinda figured the pro-choice/anti-death penalty crowd would use that reasoning.

On the other hand, how do the pro-life/pro-death penalty advocates defend their stance?

As a guess:

A fetus is a fresh life as of yetu nlived, and the default state of life should be protected.

People who murder/rape/steal/embezzle/run for President have given up their right to live.



dib8rman on 18 October 2010

@rocketpig...

"...On the other hand, how do the pro-life/pro-death penalty advocates defend their stance?"

So an unborn child is the same as a homicidal sociopath?



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MARCUSDJACKSON on 18 October 2010

i'm in the middle

on one hand the worse offenders of the law that require it should use it, but for me its another form of passing judgement and that is against gods will.



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Rath on 18 October 2010

I'm morally against the idea of what seems to me to be state sanctioned murder.



Mr Khan on 18 October 2010
rocketpig said:

Question for a few of you out there: how do you rationalize pro-choice/anti-death penalty or pro-life/pro-death penalty? Without an incredible amount of moral maneuvering, it doesn't make sense to me.

I'm kind of in the middle (very pro choice, mildly against the death penalty) but only because of financial costs, really. On a morality level, how do you split it down the middle?

Not that hard, actually.

Pro-choice/anti death penalty rationalization: "Life for everyone who is actually alive"
Pro-Life/Death penalty rationalization: "Give everyone a chance to live, but if they blow that chance..."



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Kasz216 on 18 October 2010
dib8rman said:

@rocketpig...

"...On the other hand, how do the pro-life/pro-death penalty advocates defend their stance?"

So an unborn child is the same as a homicidal sociopath?


Sort of.  Really until about 2-3 years old, a child WOULD kill you if it thought it'd get him what he wanted.



Smidlee on 18 October 2010

death penalty is like war, sometimes it's neccessary evil. You can't fight a war either without killing innocent lives.



Smidlee on 18 October 2010
Mr Khan said:
rocketpig said:

Question for a few of you out there: how do you rationalize pro-choice/anti-death penalty or pro-life/pro-death penalty? Without an incredible amount of moral maneuvering, it doesn't make sense to me.

I'm kind of in the middle (very pro choice, mildly against the death penalty) but only because of financial costs, really. On a morality level, how do you split it down the middle?

Not that hard, actually.

Pro-choice/anti death penalty rationalization: "Life for everyone who is actually alive"
Pro-Life/Death penalty rationalization: "Give everyone a chance to live, but if they blow that chance..."

"Life for everyone who is actually alive"  YET.....

A unborn baby can be seen more alive than a 60 years old man. When 60 years old, cells are slowly dying but an unborn is growing like mad, full of life.