AHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

Now watch the haters quickly change their tone towards patcher!

FROM GOD(for saying PSmove sold bad) to IDIOT(cause he retracted and now says PSmove sold well).

cmon haters don't be shy to show your true colors.

As for "SHIPPED FIGURE IS SOLD," yes it was sold to the retailer, not to the individual consumer. This is important because stores have inventories, while individual consumers don't (unless we are speaking of the Italian mafia and cigarettes like in Goodfellas). Henceforth, SHIPPED FIGURE IS SOLD TO RETAILER NOT NECESSARILY EACH AND EVERY SHIPPED SOLD TO INDIVIDUAL CONSUMER to use your tone.

As for trusting the credibility of sources, the best thing I learned from a Master's degree and 7 years of college is never to take numbers at face value. Those who have a financial interest in the numbers dictate to their numbers analysts what they want them to say, which is pushed on down the communication line to managers and spokesman.

It is in Sony's best interest to conflate shipped and sold to retailers as shipped and sold to individual consumers. Same standard is applied to numbers from Microsoft, Nintendo and each and every invested industry interest. Numbers will be inflated and conflated because doing so causes hype.

The only numbers I trust are 1st party numbers verified from 3rd party industry trackers such as NPD and VGChartz. So yes, I do trust Sony's and every other vested interest's numbers after they have been collected, organized and analyzed by independent entities. The best way to alleviate a lot of doubt and skepticism is to create an independent, preferably governmental agency who tracks videogame sales along with music, movies and books. This way, with the annual budget process they don't have to be captured by industry in order to get their data in the first place; instead they can demand it with the full legal backing of the US Federal Government.

However, in this political climate with about a 3rd of the US population opposed to any governmental spending, if we had to rebuild the interstate highway system it would never get done because of conservative Republicans and Tea Party loons. Same thing with Hoover Dam, Bonneville Dam and all the other big infrastructure projects which brought such good to so many. Yet, I digress.

Yes, I know this.  Sony sell things to retailers, when they say sold, it's because they've sold an item.  This is a sale to Sony.  People seem to think Sony are trying to trick everyone into making them think their 'sold' is sold to consumers.  So, even when you have raw data presented, you shouldn't take those numbers at face value?

Where did Sony say that they sold to consumers?  You'll take VGChartz's numbers over Sony's(don't VGC adjust figures based on Sony's reports?)?  Even though VGC don't have any sources in the majority of territories Sony sell in?   I assume you've researched VGC's sales tracking methods?  Why do you want a goverment agency to track videogame sales?  Outside of internet fanboy wars, nobody gives a shit.  The majority of people are quite happy to use the figures from the various companies quarterly/annual reports.

Was anybody really expecting Move to sell well? The advertisements just made it look like the Wii and everybody already has a Wii so why buy a PS3   move? Also the Move remotes look like vibrators. People would probably be embarrassed to keep them out in the open.

But Move was selling good... and Pachter admitted that his estimates were wrong.

Read more here: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=118193

I'm the first to admit that Pachter is a moron and anyone on this forum could do his job but shipments =/= sales.