Steve, thanks for pointing out the Halo effect, that is awesome and definately understandable!

No, none of what you listed has been proven by any reputable source. They are all assumptions based on Nintendo advertising. Show me some proof that senior citizens are picking up the system and then we can move on from there.

Well, the fact that it is outselling both the PS3 and the 360 in North America and Japan in the last few months should be enough evidence.

No, that doesn't mean anything. What means something is somebody showing me anecdotal evidence of senior citizens buying/playing the Wii. Until that time, any statements that revolve around, "Wii is for old people!" are relegated to the dustbin.

 It's not that hard to understand. If you can't prove it, then don't vomit it of your mouth.

I'm quite sure I haven't made any of those statements based on any references towards nintendo's advertising, just things I've been reading on the tons of news I've been reading.

And as for the senior citizens parts

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070323/wr_nm/videogames_retirees_dc_1

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-070216nintendo,1,609357.story?coll=chi-news-hed&ctrack=1&cset=true

http://p16.tech.re4.yahoo.com/blogs/samiljan/5868

I can probably dig up a few more examples if you want.  Btw, both of the non-chicago article mention the chicago one, but both still offer other information relevant to the request. :)

While those indicate specific examples of the Wii hitting home, they don't exactly give any wide-reaching proof that the Wii is a success in the senior citizen market. Furthermore, while the ESA estimates 25% of all gamers are above 55, it doesn't state that that has anything to do with the Wii. Maybe the Chicago Tribune has the real evidence as to the number of senior citizen gamers, but I can't access that.

Nintendo is targeting a new market, sure, and it works in specific incidents. But there is still no cold proof (IE, Senior Citizen gaming on a percentage rise because of Wii) if it's successful or if it's a failure.

You're right in saying it's not a sucess in the senior citizen market, but it has started making a positive growing interest within that market, something no other console has specifically tried to do.  Wii Sports, Wii Play, and soon Big Brain Academy are fairly strong and positive steps towards establishing a lite gaming community.  It's a market that the 360 and PS3 are totally ignoring, so competition is limited to the DS of all things. ;) 

Will it fail, do decent, or be a resounding success?  We won't know for a while, but you have to admit it's taken some good steps in the direction of appealing to them.  If it only adds 2-3% of the Wii's user base, that's still another 2-3% that the 360 and PS3 are unlikely to ever add to their users due to the interface, and probably just a few more software titles sales that wouldn't exist otherwise.  And don't forget the Wii encourages more in-person social interaction than the PS3 or 360, which is something that the retired 55+ age group seems to enjoy far more than us whipper-snappers. :)

I don't have no numbers, but I wish I could bet money that at the same point in any other console's life over the past few generations, that the Wii has the highest number of "first time console owners".  I'd even say at approaching 6 months old since launch comparison it's the fastest selling console yet to the 55+ age group. ;)  I think it'd be a pretty safe bet. And I'd also bet that those numbers will continue to grow fairly quickly until Fall '07 at the earliest, I try to be conservative, so I won't guess beyond there. :)

Note : I do enjoy John Lucas's posts, but I do tend to find them a bit too positive for my taste.  To each their own though. ^_^ 

I think if 10,000 seniors buy a console for themselves (not to give to their grandkids), then it's a success in the senior market.  That's probably more than have bought any other console.

No, I don't have numbers to back this up, the 10,000 thing is pulled completely out of my ass.  But the point is, when have consoles sold to senior citizens in any significant numbers?  Anything measurable is a win.

Grow up, kid. Someone called the Wii a toy, so he felt obligated to say something bad about the PS3. I don't see a problem with that. Quit being a little fanboy get a job; make yourself useful. :)

That's all I ask.