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Analysts at investment firm Goldman Sachs have suggested that Microsoft should "carve out" the company's profitable Entertainment and Devices division, including the Xbox 360 business, from the rest of the company.

In a report released over the weekend and excerpted by TechFlash, the investment firm suggested that the profitability of Microsoft's consumer-facing division are being hurt by overhead from the larger corporation, and that splitting the division's products off into a new organization could "unlock hidden value."

"For example, the Xbox products could be an appealing stand-alone entity, given the historical success of the Xbox and the products’ brand strength, and the business could show unlocked value with forced cost discipline compared to as a piece of Microsoft," the report suggests.

"To date the company’s comments suggest that management still sees significant value in combining the consumer and enterprise efforts, but we view a foot in both camps as preventing a successful focus on one strategy, a la Oracle in the enterprise or Apple for consumers," it continues.

Despite enthusiasm about the Xbox 360's prospects in the wake of the upcoming launch of the Kinect motion controller, Goldman lowered Microsoft's overall rating from "buy" to "neutral" in the report, citing the threat of tablet PCs and cloud-based computing, areas in which Microsoft is not dominant.

After years of losses during the original Xbox era, Microsoft's Entertainment and Devices Division finally achieved profitability in fiscal 2008. The division's profits recently grew to $679 million for the most recent fiscal year, largely on the strength of Xbox 360 business.

Aside from video games, the Entertainment and Devices Division also includes Microsoft's Zune music player business and the company's Windows Phone 7 and Windows CE mobile operating system businesses.



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http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/30779/Goldman_Sachs_Recommends_Microsoft_Split_Off_Xbox_Business.php

 

 

Basically, the report is saying that the XBOX could do better independently of MS and that MS should sell it, although they do recognize that the division isn't an absolute sinkhole



I wouldn't take financial advice from the bailouts...



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A Bad Clown said:

I wouldn't take financial advice from the bailouts...

GS is considered the king of all investment banks, the place that everybody and their dog wants to work at.  You won't get in there if you do not have an Ivy League sheepskin, and for the record, they made more $$$$$ during the bailout months than they ever did.



Didn't M$ make a lot more money outside of the gaming division???



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whatever said:

Didn't M$ make a lot more money outside of the gaming division???


without looking at the numbers, i'd imagine so.......windows doesn't have much competition, i mean apple will never be big.....MS office is dominant.........etc



dallas said:

without looking at the numbers, i'd imagine so.......windows doesn't have much competition, i mean apple will never be big.....MS office is dominant.........etc


Apple is currently the second most valuable company in the world, ahead of Microsoft. Regardless, MS invested a lot to get into the gaming business and it's been profitable for the past couple of years. Estimates are that xbox live alone brings in $1B profit, let alone the profits from the very high game unit sales and systems.

The area can only get more profitable. The future lies in IPTV and video on demand, xbox is making very strong inroads there.



Unlike Nintendo, I don't think Microsoft or Sony's game divisions would be viable if split apart from their parent company ... These companies will (probably) eliminate all profitability within the division when ramping up for the next generation, and then lose billions of dollars for the first couple of years of the next generation, before they stand the chance of being profitable later in a console's life.



Stinky said:
dallas said:

without looking at the numbers, i'd imagine so.......windows doesn't have much competition, i mean apple will never be big.....MS office is dominant.........etc


Apple is currently the second most valuable company in the world, ahead of Microsoft. Regardless, MS invested a lot to get into the gaming business and it's been profitable for the past couple of years. Estimates are that xbox live alone brings in $1B profit, let alone the profits from the very high game unit sales and systems.

The area can only get more profitable. The future lies in IPTV and video on demand, xbox is making very strong inroads there.

Apple's wealth is not from it's operating system, which is obviously what Dallas was refering to when he said "windows doesn't have much competition, apple will never be big" it was a poor choice of words, but the intent was quite clear.

If the estimates are correct, MS would be stupid to sell off Xbox, it's making a profit and looks like it will continue to do so for the forseeable future.



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I think they need this division and in it's current 'guise' for the very reason of why they lowered their rating to 'neutral'.  Microsoft has pressure to compete in new and emerging consumer markets with huge R&D investments.  To take out the profitable products to show only the future investments wouldn't look very good on earnings reports.