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From the Wii Troubleshooting section:

Check for interference from infra-red light sources, such as candles, sunlight, fireplaces, and stoves.

Radio frequency interference may cause the Wii Remote to work erratically. Check for wireless devices such as cordless phones, wireless computer keyboards or mice, or other similar devices, and move or turn them off.

The Wii manual also has a lovely photo with the Wii covered by a blanket looking oh so cozy.  Of course the manual says that is a no no.


Move:

The motion controller may not be detected correctly if it is used in a location where the lighting is too bright or if it is exposed to direct sunlight.

Check that the motion controller is not being used or placed near magnetic sources.

When using the motion controller, avoid holding the controller closer than 20 cm from the face or eyes.



Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.

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Cypher1980 said:
kitler53 said:
nightsurge said:
kitler53 said:

the play distance is a bit limiting.  i have 5'10" from my wall to the edge of my couch.  i can open up another foot-ish if i move my couch but i don't really want to be moving it back and forth all the time.

also curious about the install.  i wonder how big that is?

..but whatever, from what i've seen on the games front so far i wasn't planning on getting it anyways.


Are you saying your TV is closer than 5 ft from you?  I do hope you are talking about a bedroom or dorm as that is the smallest living room space I have ever heard of, and if you have a TV over the size of 32" that is wayyy to close to be sitting to your TV in the first place.

the fiancee owns the living room in which video games are banned because she doesn't like them.  but that's how much room i have in my man-cave and yes,..it is a pretty tight fit with my tv (40").  i'd have a bit more room (distance) if i shifted everything 90 degrees but then my love seat wouldn't fit in (the room is 5 sided so it's a bit of an akward setup no matter what i do).


40" tv and a 5 ft viewing distance. Jesus Mother Titty Fucking Christ man. Your eyes will burn.

You would have to move your head to see the whole screen.

5 ft equals a max 22 " screen.

What? I'm only 2 feet away from my 24" monitor. (triple screen as well)  I also sit 5 feet from my 42" HDTV which seems to be a good distance. As far as my eyes burning I watching LCD not the old tubes. You can easily cut down the LCD screen lamps .

 I find these distances also applies to Move when a game actually uses the camera. ( the camera is not used when not tracking the z axis) Take the 6 feet distance serious as I find using move at 4 feet it a lot easier to lose track of the glowing ball.  Now my living room is 10X12 yet my living room is far from empty. I found it's tough to use with 6 feet let along  8 feet.  You don't just need to be 6-8 feet away but a lot of open space around that area.



thx1139 said:

From the Wii Troubleshooting section:

Check for interference from infra-red light sources, such as candles, sunlight, fireplaces, and stoves.

Radio frequency interference may cause the Wii Remote to work erratically. Check for wireless devices such as cordless phones, wireless computer keyboards or mice, or other similar devices, and move or turn them off.

The Wii manual also has a lovely photo with the Wii covered by a blanket looking oh so cozy.  Of course the manual says that is a no no.


Move:

The motion controller may not be detected correctly if it is used in a location where the lighting is too bright or if it is exposed to direct sunlight.

Check that the motion controller is not being used or placed near magnetic sources.

When using the motion controller, avoid holding the controller closer than 20 cm from the face or eyes.


Oh snap!

Confirmed that the Wii absolutely cannot be in the same room as a cell phone and all lights must be turned off when you use the Move.  They're both doomedz!



Well, nothing is new here.



nightsurge said:

You guys are reading way too far into it.  That's the troubleshooting section.  Not every game for Kinect works the same.  Some, I'm sure, use the RGB camera for certain aspects.  It is the RGB camera that needs certain lighting/color requirements.  That's why PSEye has to have the glowing balls and optimal lighting to track anything other than the PS Move controllers.

If a game just uses the depth sensor then yes, you will be able to play in the dark, in any color, and be perfectly fine.

As to the "well ventilated" comment, it says that in every single console manual and pretty much all new consumer entertainment devices.  It's just saying that these devices need airflow to keep cool so don't close it in a cabinet or surround it with books or cover it in clothes.

Also, I find it very hard to believe people can't find 6-8' of space from their TV in most living rooms/entertainment centers.  I live in an apartment and my living room space from the TV to the front of my couch is 8' so I should be fine and people with houses should have much more space than me.

Nothing to worry about here.

I agree people are just to pessimistic about this product. If you don't have that much room in your place, you need to stop spending so much on video games, get a job, get a bigger place. I have had many appartments with cheap rent and Have always had that amount of space. 

This product is new and you have no clue until you try the product. I think with TGS annoucements Most of my worries are gone. this product needs time to be worked with like the wii. Wii basically set up confidence for the move. I remember all these doom articles about the wii. look at it now.

I think nightsurge makes some good points, depends on how the developers work with it's potential. This will take sometime.

P.s. f you bobby kotick!



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kitler53 said:

the play distance is a bit limiting.  i have 5'10" from my wall to the edge of my couch.  i can open up another foot-ish if i move my couch but i don't really want to be moving it back and forth all the time.

also curious about the install.  i wonder how big that is?

..but whatever, from what i've seen on the games front so far i wasn't planning on getting it anyways.



You really only have 5'10", wow thats just crammed in there. Yo were do you live, you want to come to my house. My spare room has more room then that.  I'm not rich either. I pay 995 a month to rent a 3 bedroom house. You didnt' care for the new games announced at TGS?  I want it for family and friends when they come over. I got a ton of hardcore games but nothing that we can have some beers and have some competive fun. I'm 28 so I see the potential it has. also if my families kids come over it can entertain them as well. 

Don't mean to rip on your place either just never  had a living room that small even with the couch involved. I've paid 600 a month and had a bigger room then that. I also live near chicago. so might be more expensive up here. but thats cheap. I see your point though I wouldn't want to move stuff around to play the device. I'm not trying to be rude if it sounds that way. sorry if it does.



Cypher1980 said:

 


40" tv and a 5 ft viewing distance. Jesus Mother Titty Fucking Christ man. Your eyes will burn.

You would have to move your head to see the whole screen.

5 ft equals a max 22 " screen.


Lol, I read this statement on a 25" widescreen monitor from 18" away and I didn't have to move my head to see the whole screen O_o



bannedagain said:
kitler53 said:

the play distance is a bit limiting.  i have 5'10" from my wall to the edge of my couch.  i can open up another foot-ish if i move my couch but i don't really want to be moving it back and forth all the time.

also curious about the install.  i wonder how big that is?

..but whatever, from what i've seen on the games front so far i wasn't planning on getting it anyways.



You really only have 5'10", wow thats just crammed in there. Yo were do you live, you want to come to my house. My spare room has more room then that.  I'm not rich either. I pay 995 a month to rent a 3 bedroom house. You didnt' care for the new games announced at TGS?  I want it for family and friends when they come over. I got a ton of hardcore games but nothing that we can have some beers and have some competive fun. I'm 28 so I see the potential it has. also if my families kids come over it can entertain them as well. 

Don't mean to rip on your place either just never  had a living room that small even with the couch involved. I've paid 600 a month and had a bigger room then that. I also live near chicago. so might be more expensive up here. but thats cheap. I see your point though I wouldn't want to move stuff around to play the device. I'm not trying to be rude if it sounds that way. sorry if it does.

in order that you asked.

1. yes.

2. downtown chicago, west loop/greektown to be as precious as i'm willing to say on the interwebz.  i pay 1825 for a "two" bedroom..."two" meaning 1 bedroom and my man cave.  suits my needs well enought but i wouldn't want to use it as an actual bedroom personally.

3. um..not really.  to be fair though i never played that mech warrior game or panzer dragon (sp?) so it doesn't lend itself to hyping me up.  I'm not really looking for "family" gaming either cause i don't have one and the closest friends of mine who game live in madision, wi.  for whatever reason my chicago friends are lame (and by that i means too cool).

4. ...and i see potential in kinect.  i love the idea of motion controlls at least.  i'm a pretty big hater of the wii now-a-days because of how much of a let down it is.  tends to make me more wary of move/kinect just so my hopes don't get to high.  i bought the bare minimum of move, there are at least a few noteworthy games for me.  kinect only has ,...umm, having a brain fart.  not dance masters but that other dancing game.  anyways, not enough to get me to buy yet.

5. no worries about being rude.  you weren't.  and i'd rather people post honest opinions that i don't like then try to feign love to everything and everyone.



“try wearing different colored clothing that contrasts with the background of your play space,”

 

Emo's can't play on the dark confirmed.



I only see one real problem with those requirements, and that's the required distance from the TV. I have always expected this to be Kinect's biggest problem, and I still expect that we will see lots of people complaining about it.

I expect Kinect to be fun only in two-player-mode, so to really enjoy Kinect you will need a distance of 2,5m from your body to the sensor. And since the sensor needs to see your whole body, there cannot be any table, other furniture or whatever between you and the sensor.

And that's already two problems that would for example completely rule out playing Kinect in my best friend's house where I play very often. It would be possible in my home, but I would have to seriously rearrange my furniture.