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sapphi_snake on 05 October 2010
pizzahut451 said:


If the story of great flood on mankind for its wickedness is true, why does it matter if the biblical version is wrong or right? The story and the point are true, except for some other details

Funny that you call manking "wicked" and not the deity who killed everybody.

And it's high;y unlikely that any of those stories are true, as people back then had no ideea how big the world truly was (plus, people from different parts fo the world couldn't communicate how they did today, so it's not as if one could know what was going on around the world to begin with).



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kowhoho on 05 October 2010
Dr.Grass said:
Mummelmann said:
Buddha_Maitreya said:

I believe there have been flood, but honestly..

How do you explain the relative ages of mountains? For example, why weren't the Sierra Nevadas eroded as much as the Appalachians during the Flood?

Why is there no evidence of a flood in ice core series? Ice cores from Greenland have been dated back more than 40,000 years by counting annual layers.A worldwide flood would be expected to leave a layer of sediments, noticeable changes in salinity and oxygen isotope ratios, fractures from buoyancy and thermal stresses, a hiatus in trapped air bubbles, and probably other evidence. Why doesn't such evidence show up?

How are the polar ice caps even possible? Such a mass of water as the Flood would have provided sufficient buoyancy to float the polar caps off their beds and break them up. They wouldn't regrow quickly. In fact, the Greenland ice cap would not regrow under modern (last 10 ky) climatic conditions.

Why did the Flood not leave traces on the sea floors? A year long flood should be recognizable in sea bottom cores by (1) an uncharacteristic amount of terrestrial detritus, (2) different grain size distributions in the sediment, (3) a shift in oxygen isotope ratios (rain has a different isotopic composition from seawater), (4) a massive extinction, and (n) other characters. Why do none of these show up?

Why is there no evidence of a flood in tree ring dating? Tree ring records go back more than 10,000 years, with no evidence of a catastrophe during that time.


Begone with your insight and reason!

Masterfully put, and I'm sure there are one thousand other flaws and logical tears to be explored in the Noah myth (along with pretty much everything else in the greatest work of fiction ever).

Ya just keep up patting each other on the back.

So how old are the oldest trees that exist again?

I don't believe it rained for 40 days or whatever, but is there no possibility that the ice caps could have melted before? Is there no possibility that continents could have rapidly shifted and buried large parts of themselves under the ocean?

Why is there always such hate between you 'masterfully intelligent' scientific geniuses and the fanatic reliogionists?

Buddha made his points with the greatest class and without an ounce of venom, and your comment is drenched in hate. You're being entirely hypocritical by condemning him for (invisible) malice and turning around to spit on him.

I think you are also confusing intelligence with knowledge. A person can be both religious and intelligent, and a person can be both atheist and stupid. Assuming otherwise is foolish.



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Cypher1980 on 05 October 2010

So if the OP is right.....

A number of seperate stories all revolving around the same theme

A belief system that still exists in culture to the present day

Oh my God !

SANTA CLAUS IS REAL !!!!!



Cypher1980 on 05 October 2010
Dr.Grass said:
Mummelmann said:
Buddha_Maitreya said:

I believe there have been flood, but honestly..

How do you explain the relative ages of mountains? For example, why weren't the Sierra Nevadas eroded as much as the Appalachians during the Flood?

Why is there no evidence of a flood in ice core series? Ice cores from Greenland have been dated back more than 40,000 years by counting annual layers.A worldwide flood would be expected to leave a layer of sediments, noticeable changes in salinity and oxygen isotope ratios, fractures from buoyancy and thermal stresses, a hiatus in trapped air bubbles, and probably other evidence. Why doesn't such evidence show up?

How are the polar ice caps even possible? Such a mass of water as the Flood would have provided sufficient buoyancy to float the polar caps off their beds and break them up. They wouldn't regrow quickly. In fact, the Greenland ice cap would not regrow under modern (last 10 ky) climatic conditions.

Why did the Flood not leave traces on the sea floors? A year long flood should be recognizable in sea bottom cores by (1) an uncharacteristic amount of terrestrial detritus, (2) different grain size distributions in the sediment, (3) a shift in oxygen isotope ratios (rain has a different isotopic composition from seawater), (4) a massive extinction, and (n) other characters. Why do none of these show up?

Why is there no evidence of a flood in tree ring dating? Tree ring records go back more than 10,000 years, with no evidence of a catastrophe during that time.


Begone with your insight and reason!

Masterfully put, and I'm sure there are one thousand other flaws and logical tears to be explored in the Noah myth (along with pretty much everything else in the greatest work of fiction ever).

Ya just keep up patting each other on the back.

So how old are the oldest trees that exist again?

I don't believe it rained for 40 days or whatever, but is there no possibility that the ice caps could have melted before? Is there no possibility that continents could have rapidly shifted and buried large parts of themselves under the ocean?

Why is there always such hate between you 'masterfully intelligent' scientific geniuses and the fanatic reliogionists?

You know I've been coming to this site for a long long time. The above statement is probably the most ignorant, appallingly inaccurate and risible posting I've seen in all that time.

It would take a 5 year old child 10 minutes with an encyclopedia to realise just how utterly flawed the concept above is.



Hus on 06 October 2010

It rains ever where right so DUHHHHHHHHHHh everone will ahve a flood fairy tale. 



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axt113 on 06 October 2010

Simpler explanation, big floods happen from time to time near large rivers and lakes, which is where early humans lived , so early humans thought that such a flood meant the entire world was flooded, and some schmoe who survives the flood with his family on a boat with some animals they owned thinks god chose him as special, then like all good tall tales, it gets bigger as its told and retold

 

Underwater cities are easy to answer, living too close to a shore where floods can wash away mud huts and buildings, or where Tsunamis hit and bam the story of underwater cities comes along



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axt113 on 06 October 2010
Cypher1980 said:

So if the OP is right.....

A number of seperate stories all revolving around the same theme

A belief system that still exists in culture to the present day

Oh my God !

SANTA CLAUS IS REAL !!!!!


Yup as real as Jesus



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pizzahut451 on 08 October 2010
sapphi_snake said:
pizzahut451 said:


If the story of great flood on mankind for its wickedness is true, why does it matter if the biblical version is wrong or right? The story and the point are true, except for some other details

Funny that you call manking "wicked" and not the deity who killed everybody.

And it's high;y unlikely that any of those stories are true, as people back then had no ideea how big the world truly was (plus, people from different parts fo the world couldn't communicate how they did today, so it's not as if one could know what was going on around the world to begin with).


You're doing this again. I said IF the story is true, im not here to argue if the story is true or made up, all i said that if the actual story is true, than it doesnt matter what version of it it.

Oh and...

IF the story is INDEED true, than the deity (God) can not possbily be wicked, because if we assume that the story is true, we assume that God exists, and that means he cant be wicked because he is omnibenevolenct (perfect goodness). ''Wicked'' is like sinfull, and God cant possibly comitt a sin, since he is above it.



sapphi_snake on 08 October 2010
pizzahut451 said:
sapphi_snake said:
pizzahut451 said:


If the story of great flood on mankind for its wickedness is true, why does it matter if the biblical version is wrong or right? The story and the point are true, except for some other details

Funny that you call manking "wicked" and not the deity who killed everybody.

And it's high;y unlikely that any of those stories are true, as people back then had no ideea how big the world truly was (plus, people from different parts fo the world couldn't communicate how they did today, so it's not as if one could know what was going on around the world to begin with).


You're doing this again. I said IF the story is true, im not here to argue if the story is true or made up, all i said that if the actual story is true, than it doesnt matter what version of it it.

Oh and...

IF the story is INDEED true, than the deity (God) can not possbily be wicked, because if we assume that the story is true, we assume that God exists, and that means he cant be wicked because he is omnibenevolenct (perfect goodness). ''Wicked'' is like sinfull, and God cant possibly comitt a sin, since he is above it.

Circular logic again.



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axt113 on 08 October 2010
pizzahut451 said:
sapphi_snake said:
pizzahut451 said:


If the story of great flood on mankind for its wickedness is true, why does it matter if the biblical version is wrong or right? The story and the point are true, except for some other details

Funny that you call manking "wicked" and not the deity who killed everybody.

And it's high;y unlikely that any of those stories are true, as people back then had no ideea how big the world truly was (plus, people from different parts fo the world couldn't communicate how they did today, so it's not as if one could know what was going on around the world to begin with).


You're doing this again. I said IF the story is true, im not here to argue if the story is true or made up, all i said that if the actual story is true, than it doesnt matter what version of it it.

Oh and...

IF the story is INDEED true, than the deity (God) can not possbily be wicked, because if we assume that the story is true, we assume that God exists, and that means he cant be wicked because he is omnibenevolenct (perfect goodness). ''Wicked'' is like sinfull, and God cant possibly comitt a sin, since he is above it.


That's ridiculous, if God commits wicked acts, then he is wicked regardless of his power, he would just be perfect evil



Rumors indicate that it is planning on following the first approach, sticking a new, motion-sensitive controller onto an existing console. Our perspective is that this is the worst of the three options.

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