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I imagine Nintendo will be the first to market in early or mid 2012.  The 'Super Wii' will probably be about 2.5x as powerful as the PS3, using a proprietary format based off of HD-DVD or Blu Ray to store games.  I imagine an integrated online system with one single friend code for each hardware.  I also expect Saturn/Dreamcast/Gamecube games to arrive on the next gen Virtual Console and WiiWare to have a significantly higher size limit (1GB?)

I think the other two consoles will be launched slightly later in 2013, they will be about 3-4x as powerful as the PS3, meaning there is a graphical gap between the 'Super Wii' and the others but not as big as this gen.  I think both will have a moderate level of motion control integrated.

 

I also expect the industry to become more polarised - with Japan primarily supporting the 'Super Wii' and handhelds and the West supporting PS4 and 720. 




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Microsoft and Nintendo to launch 2011 - 2013. Sony to launch a year later as they have to get psp2 out of the door and recoup some of their massive ps3 investments.

All three are facing global constrains that will inevitably dictate all of the machines designs. Some  important constrains are:

A)The growing importance of digital delivery.

B)The huge costs of making AAA games and the continuing economic climate

C)The power of third parties. The machines need to be similar enough in specs so that third party games can be ported easily between the machines. To this end Im sure theres a lot of industrial information exchange, 'spying' if you want, going on.

D)The growing trend  of games-as -a service rather then simple products. Thus lots of DLC, paid online and conitinuous revenue streams over the lifetime of a game.

E)The expansion of the gaming audience and the growing older of core gamers.

F)The importance of  online multiplayer and especially anything to do with community building, customization and social networks.

On top of these each manufacturer will want to differentiate themselves somehow and also leverage their brand appeal.

Ill just do Nintendo for now

Nintendo will want a low cost, quiet and efficient box with a unique hook. Motion controls will remain and be further refined. I think what N really wants to deliver is 3D machine without the need for glasses. Whether the technology will be there in the 2011-2013 timeframe to achieve this I dont know. A further problem is that it will have to be at a mass market pricepoint, at least relative to the other two. In this sense Nintendo is playing the waiting game with 3D technology progress and probably now wish that the Wii was a bit more future proof as the HD systems seem to be gaining pace with respect to the Wii. I expect visual quality to be just a step above the PS3, i.e. similar to the psp - 3ds gap and looking like a pc game at moderate specs today, i.e. 720p @ 60fps with good anti aliasing and custom shaders. The games will be delivered either by a custom optical disc holding 10 - 15 GB or at a push blu-ray (although i consider the later highly unlikely). Good chance of Wii backwards compatibility bounded by the constraints of the hardware architecture used.  Incremental improvement of the  online system  again with an emphasis on usability and security, SD card storage with, unfortunately, just a small internal hard disk. Nintendo will desire higher business volume with third parties. We will get the usual high quality core Nintendo brans, Mario, Zelda, Metroid, e.t.c. plus new iterations of their family friendly lines. Im hoping for original core IP's but dont hold much hope for that. Instead what I foresse is more third party collaborations with companies like Retro, team Ninja etc.



thranx said:

I expect 4 player split screen for games. Alos 4 player split screen online.

OMG YES PLEASE!!! THIS!!!



mchaza said:

well something that been in my head is 'what will be the next generation consoles', in the past its simply been upgrades of the past consoles to run better graphics with the exception of the Wii with Motion control.

With the big 3 (and maybe a other major company) are as of now working or already figured out their next console to be released in a period of 2-5 years from now. So what do you predict would be the next big thing to hit the market in the upcoming years. 

here are my predictions:

Nintendo:

with the Wii being an success because it was the 'first' to do it i can see too pathways for Nintendos next console:

- WiiHD: an advanced Wii with improved power and online support, or could be a Wii3D console with Nintendo hopping on the Sony bandwagon for 3D console gaming.(predicted release time: Late 2011-2012

- New console that in a blend between motion and controller gaming  (predicted release time: 2012-2014)

- pull out of console market since controller consoles from Nintendo fail compared to that of Playstation and xbox and then focus on Hand-held and software and that sony/Microsoft may end up getting the edge of motion gaming.

Microsoft:

Now Microsoft is in a difficult position, they have to move to blu ray disks since games are getting bigger and bigger and regular disk cant cut it. I believe Microsoft has two pathways for there next console  

Kinect only console: simular to what Sega did with the Sega CD then followed up with Sega Saturn which was CD based, Microsoft will release a Kinect only console depending on the success of the kinect (predicted release time: 2013-2015)

Xbox720: it will be a console which will probably be Blu ray and be technically like the PS3 but more improved and expanded online support and features and could have Kinect Built into the device. 

Sony:

PS4: Simply this is the most likely thing to happen just like the PS1->PS2 where it went from Early Disk console to an more mature disk console, the PS4 will be a more mature Blu ray console that will be feature packed and will be a media hub device. The Ps4 will most likely have built in play tv, expanded 3D abilities, greatly improved processing power, cheaper than the PS4 and will support motion control even more. 

 

well there are my prediction for the future consoles, and if its going to happen we will see one probably the end of next year with the WiiHD/or 3D model.

Microsoft will not have bluray I think, they're not in the "BRD Association" whereas Sony was a founder of it, so if Sony were to convince all of the other board members to not allow MS to have it then MS will probably not have it.

Anyway here's my predictions:

Nintendo - I think they will attempt to look for another gap in the market seeing as MS and Sony have also entered the motion controls. If not, a Wii HD and improved motion detection. I can't predict much from nintendo since I never play a Wii or never really played any of their consoles.

MS - It will not be called the Xbox 720 and I'll bet money on that. It will not destroy your discs if you move the console, instead the whole console will blow up (only joking of course). It will most likely use DVDs still unless they can blag for the use of blurays. They'll probably port kinect over if it is successful or they want to give it continued support and make it successful. If they do give kinect compatibility, they will make 2 skus, one for "hardcore" gamers where it's the console and controller and one for "casual" gamers where it is cheaper, the xbox has less memory and it includes kinect. Xbox live will be similar to what it is today.

Sony - I think the PS4 will similar to the PS3 in terms of performance, obviously the RSX or Cell (can't remember) production was stopped so it won't be the same, they'll just use a different chip for this. They will improve on their graphics card and the RAM available. They will focus on improving the 3D available and get it to a much better quality then it currently stands. PS3 b/c is almost guaranteed and there will be PS2 at the most. PS1 will not be there unless added at a future date. PSN will be similar to what it is today, maybe having a proper premium service with added features rather then little items.