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okr said:
zuvuyeay said:
okr said:
rocketpig said:
KylieDog said:
AbbathTheGrim said:

The movie is an almost perfect visual presentation of this Post-Modern times. The way you can interpret various scenes to the way we humans live our life today gives the movie depth.


On the flip side, the movie leaves so much to interpret that is has no solid footing and thus a poor movie.

Since when is leaving interpretation up to the viewer a bad thing?

i think it started in the 80s.

OT: Set design/art direction, story, atmosphere, soundtrack (the only good soundtrack Vangelis has ever created), cultural influence.

Chariots of fire is a classic and still parodied to this day

I hate the soundtracks for Chariots of Fire and 1492: Conquest of Paradise (Vangelis' two biggest successes) with a passion.

that maybe so but its still a classic and gone down in movie history like i said and parodied a lot,i would have thought bladerunner would be his biggest success



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zuvuyeay said:
okr said:
zuvuyeay said:
okr said:
rocketpig said:
KylieDog said:
AbbathTheGrim said:

The movie is an almost perfect visual presentation of this Post-Modern times. The way you can interpret various scenes to the way we humans live our life today gives the movie depth.


On the flip side, the movie leaves so much to interpret that is has no solid footing and thus a poor movie.

Since when is leaving interpretation up to the viewer a bad thing?

i think it started in the 80s.

OT: Set design/art direction, story, atmosphere, soundtrack (the only good soundtrack Vangelis has ever created), cultural influence.

Chariots of fire is a classic and still parodied to this day

I hate the soundtracks for Chariots of Fire and 1492: Conquest of Paradise (Vangelis' two biggest successes) with a passion.

that maybe so but its still a classic and gone down in movie history like i said and parodied a lot,i would have thought bladerunner would be his biggest success

No. The Chariots of Fire and 1492 soundtracks were worldwide hits and sold million of copies. The OST for CoF sold several  million copies in the first year alone, the title theme was a worldwide single hit and became one of the most succesful instrumental tracks in movie history. Despite their successes both soundtracks are among the most unsuitable ones I've ever heard, but it doesn't really matter as both movies suck and are widely forgotten.

The brilliant original Blade Runner soundtrack was first released 12 years after the movie and became a cult classic, just like the movie (which was initially a flop - E.T was released the same summer and completely dominated the worldwide boxofffice in 1982).



A few years back, I watched it to see what all the hub bub was about and TBH, I thought it was meh on average... Some parts were facking brilliant like the SE , atmosphere and Harrison Ford's acting (I'm a Harrison Ford fanboy! 8> ) while other parts were unbelievably boring...

After my initial viewing, I decided to listen to the directors commentary. About 30 minutes in, I figured out what the source of my Bladerunner woes were... Ridley Scott. He's perhaps the most boring person I've ever listened to EVA! I think some of his personality accidentally found it's way into the plot...



KylieDog said:
rocketpig said:
KylieDog said:
AbbathTheGrim said:

The movie is an almost perfect visual presentation of this Post-Modern times. The way you can interpret various scenes to the way we humans live our life today gives the movie depth.


On the flip side, the movie leaves so much to interpret that is has no solid footing and thus a poor movie.

Since when is leaving interpretation up to the viewer a bad thing?


When too much needs interpretation.


Then you probably hate Apocalypse Now. Personally, I love it when a director leaves major plot points up to the audience. In my opinion, we need more directors that treat an audience with respect and not like mouth-breathing, mentally disabled nitwits.




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sad.man.loves.vgc said:
Reasonable said:

You tell me... and if you can't watch it until you can.

What is it with all the 'what is so good... can someone explain this..." threads I keep seeing all over the gaming/film boards at the moment?

Work it out yourself - that's the point.

Yeah, I know, snarky.  But true.


lol, I know I hate those threads myself and I said that in my own thread too. We can still discuss the movie though :)


True.  True.  I just hate the whole 'explain this' mentality.  The whole point of a film like Blade Runner - or the novel on which it is based - is you experience it for yourself.  The whole idea of a neat pamplet explaining it all is just horrible for me.  Put some leg work in and think for yourself is my motto.

That being said, the setting, exploration of what it means to be human - and by extension inhuman - plus in Roy Batty one of the coolest characters commited to film, coupled with what is still arguably the most convincing portrayal of a futuristic city make for something special if you watch this is on a very big screen.

Every frame of the film is astonishing in its depth of information and clarity of composition.  If only more SF films like this existed vs tripe like Transformers (although the first one was actually okay, but the second seriously nuked the fridge while screwing the pooch at the same time).



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its also a good sci-fi thriller

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Reasonable said:


True.  True.  I just hate the whole 'explain this' mentality.  The whole point of a film like Blade Runner - or the novel on which it is based - is you experience it for yourself.  The whole idea of a neat pamplet explaining it all is just horrible for me.  Put some leg work in and think for yourself is my motto.

That being said, the setting, exploration of what it means to be human - and by extension inhuman - plus in Roy Batty one of the coolest characters commited to film, coupled with what is still arguably the most convincing portrayal of a futuristic city make for something special if you watch this is on a very big screen.

Every frame of the film is astonishing in its depth of information and clarity of composition.  If only more SF films like this existed vs tripe like Transformers (although the first one was actually okay, but the second seriously nuked the fridge while screwing the pooch at the same time).

All this and a stunning fresh view of the future, as it was the first to mix the old and the new, the west and the east. It is definitely the most influential movie of the 80s.

In the end, Reasonable is right. It is a movie about humanity. What is to be human in a dehumanized society, which is an extreme version of ours own.



KylieDog said:
rocketpig said:
KylieDog said:


When too much needs interpretation.


Then you probably hate Apocalypse Now. Personally, I love it when a director leaves major plot points up to the audience. In my opinion, we need more directors that treat an audience with respect and not like mouth-breathing, mentally disabled nitwits.

I made a fim once, it was a man standing in a field, after 90 minutes he goes home, eats a sandwich and goes to bed.  The film ends with a green tint to the sky.

Its a very deep, emotional film, quite amazing.  If you don't know why you're interpreting it wrong.

Yes, because Blade Runner is obviously a nonsensical arthouse film. What was I thinking?




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Reasonable said:

but the second seriously nuked the fridge

Ahahahahahahah, I've never heard that before. Brilliant.




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JazzyJeez said:
dallas said:

It's kinda like the X-men............ know how the X-men are people that never felt that they fit in with normal society?  here you have an android pretending to be part of society when he's really just an animitronic bucket of parts.  The struggle to be part of something and identity is often deeper than trying to kill off that alien or communicate with a UFO, for example.


The DC of Blade Runner with the inclusion of the unicorn dream implies that decker is a replicant but doesn't out an out say he is, its left upto the viewer to interpret that, the short story actually gives more indication that decker is human.

@OP Blade Runner is a sci-fi classic, still being talked about nearly 30yrs later and has had massive influence on the depiction of the future in movies and stories.

ok, fine and that's my interpretation.  I just think that an android fighting to put other androids out of business sounds way too much like a gay pastor that goes to dimly lit parks.   But, please feel free to have your own opinion on the matter.