intro94 said:
loves2splooge said:
I think Nintendo are getting pretty cocky right now. The 3DS will most likely debut at $250 US, which is still way too expensive. Systems are always priced a good bit lower in the states than in Japan so it`s not a straight rate conversion (so I strongly doubt we`ll see a $300 US 3DS).
For the hardcore Nintendo fans 15 plus (the minority) , I think many of them will be willing to put down $250. Some obviously aren`t given the response we`ve seen online. But many would.
For Nintendo fans under 15, it`s doubtful that their soccer moms will buy a $250 handheld for them. Without the `Nintendo kid` and `soccer mom` demographics, Nintendo is screwed. You can`t rely on only the hardcore 15 Nintendo crowd. Even the Game Cube had to rely on kids to get the support it got and it was the 3rd place console in the west that gen.
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you sir, are an ignorant.A chunk of the handheld nintendo market, the largest part , is composed of previous nintendo owners.GB, GBC, and GBA, who then got DS and obviously look foward the 3ds.If you look at the sales of gb or gba you can tell the portion of market that moved is into the dozens of millions, with the ds adding a little extra casual padding.Kids that didnt play gba, and gb(under 15 crowd) ARE NOT nintendos target, they are sonys hope, because they have no brand loyalty or tradition with nintendo.So dont label that huge chunk of grown up people as minority. 2ndly, for the moms and dads, well, they spend 300-because its the cool thing to own and peer pressure -on iphones for their kids, so that didnt stop them.Also, the similar pricing didnt stop parents from getting psps for their kids.Kids make their parents buy that stuff.Trust me, if a kid made a parent get them a psp for 250 5 years ago, 50 dollars arent gonna make a difference in 2011.
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Older hardcore Nintendo fans are not Nintendo's bread and butter. Anyone that is aware of Nintendo's recent successes on the DS and Wii front is aware of that. Like it or not, the casual crowd was key to Nintendo's success this generation. And like I said, even Gamecube had the support of children. And if you look at software sales and what gets stocks on shelves, it's very clear that casuals are the bread and butter. When the 3DS comes out, the core Nintendo camp will buy it like crazy at launch. And then the sales will drop off sharply. Until it gets to the sweet spot price point for handheld. Which is gonna take awhile.
I predict that the 3DS is going to be a late bloomer (like the PS3 but more successful due to the lack of competition in the western handheld market). It's going to take awhile for the 3DS technology to be cheap enough for Nintendo to hit that sweet spot price point. When it finally does, it'll be very popular. The 3DS is ahead of it's time and was released prematurely. There was no need to rush out a successor. The DS was still going strong up until the 3DS got announced (just look at the figures). And if it wasn't for the premature 3DS announcement this year, the DS wouldn't have dropped off this year hardware and software sales wise (and even then, it's still doing very well). Sony isn't a threat. Apple doesn't threaten their market. They could have waited until the 3DS tech was cheap enough to launch it at a reasonable price point.
Buying a freakin iPhone for your child (along with the expensive contract that comes with it) is not the norm. In North American culture, this kind of indulgence is looked down upon.
As for the PSP, the main reason why it's not that successful in North America in the first place has to do with the fact that the DS is cheaper and thus much more attractive to parents. Teenagers and adults with disposable income were mainly the PSP's target audience. Not children. But that didn't work out for Sony because in North America (except for major urban centers like New York City) most teenagers over 16 and adults drive a car. In Tokyo and other urban centers in Japan, where salarymen take the subway and bus, the PSP is a strong no.2 and a real threat to Nintendo. But the Japanese market's volume is drowned out by the massiveness of the North American and European markets so Japan doesn't matter much in the grand scheme of things anymore.
Now that the PSP is more reasonably priced, they're trying to market to the pre-teen crowd (Marcus campaign) as a "cooler big boy" alternative to Nintendo. You can get a PSP-3000 with Modnation Racers bundle for $170. Which is a pretty decent deal for kids. Though I think Sony should thrown in a 2 GB memory stick pro duo too at that price to make the PSP more attractive.