The NES and SNES were the only Nintendo home consoles that saw stellar 3rd party support, both quantity and quality, while we all know the N64 and GC didn´t...and when the Wii started gaining a lot of marketshare and it was becoming clear it´d be the first time, since the SNES, a Nintendo home console would again 'win' a generation, many people thought it´d get back the kind of 3rd party support that was lost in the SNES-N64 transition...didn´t happen.

I´ve heard reasons ranging from 'no one thought the Wii would be so successful, 3rd parties bet on the wrong horse' to '3rd parties deliberately avoid putting their major guns on the system', etc....it´s probably a mix of the two.

Now, when the 'N6' comes out, 3rd parties must be aware it´ll (probably) carry over 'the Wii effect', and because of that they won´t want to ignore it like they did to the Wii...right?...I dunno, when it comes to Nintendo home consoles, it seems 3rd parties want to play a role in 'keeping it down', a contrast to Nintendo handhelds where it´s all sunshine and flowers.

If the N6 is a graphical beast, the way 3rd parties seem to like, and along with that carrying over 'the Wii effect', there´ll be absolutely no reason to ignore it.

What do you think?...I think jarrod, a vgchartz poster, said he thinks the 3DS might be an indication that Nintendo will make the N6 a beast and will be quite serious in trying to take the 'major 3rd party core support' away from Sony and MS...while Metallicube, another vgchartz poster, said he thinks as long as Sony and MS are around, Nintendo home consoles will never see stellar 3rd party support.

They won't even get it next gen.

N64- Cartridges are too expensive and N64 is too hard to make games for.

GC- Userbase is too small; discs don't hold enough space.PS2 is king.

Wii- Userbase is too large; graphics aint strong enough; we cannot compete with Nintendo/nintendo should make games to expand "xxxxxx-genre's" userbase.

Wii2- We cant compete with Nintendo games, too expensive to make HD games; userbase is too large.

Nintendo cannot and will not ever win. Deep down inside, everyone knows they make better games more frequently than any other 3rd party and no one wants to side with that...except Warren Spector lol.

Well, they'll always be d0med, no matter what.

If Nintendo can come up with something that'll be a surefire hit for the Blue Ocean crowd for their next system, then 3rd parties will have no choice but to increase support, lest they risk investor revolt.

My assumption is that 3rd parties, as well as the industry as a whole, has a serious grudge against Nintendo and would like to see them go out of business

3rd parties want to sell enough games to make a profit to guarantee that they can stay in business to continue developing/publishing games.

They don't care what platform the game is being developed for and will work within the limitations of a platform if the yields are calculated to be worth the effort. For the PS3, development costs were higher and the hardware unconventional, requiring a different approach to coding. The 360 is arguably the easiest platform to develop for (particularly for PC developers), but even it has the issue of no standard HDD (which means all games must be made to run without this benefit).

Part of the problem with the Wii is the hardware itself. Not just the decision to use undespecced hardware, but the very motion controls that made the platform such a hit among those looking for something different or new. The Remote itself is awkward as a standard controller yet games that require players to use a classic or GC controller seem a bit out of place on the Wii. "Why no motion controls? Isn't that the point of the Wii?" The result? A lot of games that would have been better off with standard controls end up with tacked on motion controls.

This is not to say that developers couldn't get creative with the control scheme (as many did) it just really isn't suitable for most traditional control based games. You can't rewrite any genre with motion controls for the Wii and expect it to feel natural and be "golden."

The specs of Nintendo's next console won't be in question, making the problem of doing cross platform ports a non-issue from a processing standpoint. The only potential problem is Nintendo's next console isn't likely to use conventional controls either. So either all platforms have motion controls that can be ported with relative ease from one platform to another, or 3rd party developers are again left with the choice of doing sub-optimal ports, or lead developing games on a Nintendo console that can't be properly ported to other platforms. That would mean having to make their games Nintendo console exclusives (due to the lack of portability) which is would make them higher risk. Add to that the reality that dictates games on an HD Nintendo system with similar specs to any other platform will be just as expensive to develop.

Take the 3DS in contrast. Very capable hardware specs making processing power a relative non-issue for most projects, but conventional controls, meaning games could be ported to other platforms with the loss of the 3D effects, assuming that future competition won't also have portable 3D capabilities. Plus the 3DS should be relatively inexpensive to develop for (compared to consoles) due to the nature of portable games with their shorter development times and reduced resources.

 That, I am not really expecting a big change about the 3dev support, they will probably claim that only nintendo can sell games on nintendo´s consoles, that they can not compete with nintendo´s internal studios, too casual and so...

I disagree. I am not interested in any of Nintendo's games.

they should change their name to Nintendoom.

None? I'm not only talking about the Wii...you trying to tell me nothin they make on the DS appeals to you either?