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Alby_da_Wolf on 27 September 2010

LOL, supporting XB360 when it was buggy as hell and abandoning it now that it became almost reliable (and has tons, er, well, at least tens, of games too) could just be one of those batshit crazy things the Brits so love to do to distinguish themselves from the rest of the world!   



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A203D on 27 September 2010
johnglen said:
libellule said:
johnglen said:
libellule said:
Seece said:

rofl. Never. PS3 hasn't beaten it once there in yearly sales, and barely tops 1 mill there a year.

EA have been arse licking Sony a lot lately, I don't know why. Maybe it's because Microsoft is firmly in bed with Activision .. but then it doesn't sound like Activision love Microsoft that much, just their money!

EA is making tonne of money because of the good PS3 softwares sales

good multiplateform software sales du to the lack of hacking and the less "upgrade/remplacement hardware purchase" because of the RRoD

FIFA is a good example ....

EA has also been making tons of money because of the good xbox360 software sales for years now, so what's your point ??

 

The rest is bullshit (the blahblah blah when it comes to the 360's userbase) when the attach ratio of the 360 is by far the highest this generation, a fact that destroys all the amateurish propaganda.

well, I m sure they are making tonne of money on the 360. They are making more money on 360, let's be clearer.
But they also know those 360 people are very Gears or Halo or CoD biased (not EA games). While PS3 is lacking a "king exclusive" meaning people will tend to buy more multiplateform games (see FIFA).

At the end, multiplateform sales tend to favor PS3 compared to the "official" console user base ratio. That is why EA is loving the PS3.

And, at this question : WHY PS3 software sales on multiplateform games do not follow the userbase ratio PS3/360 ?

- there is no piracy on PS3, there are plenty on 360
- I m GUESSING the 360 userbase is "virtually" slightly inflated because of people buying more than one whatever it is because the old one was broken or because the 360 is cheaper so u can buy several for your children. I doubt many people have 2 PS3s and I doubt people bought many PS3s because their first died by RRoD ...

Also, about the attach rate you are mentionning, since this rate include the 360 exclusive or no EA games (that EA, obviously, dont give a fucking shit) AND since this attach rate is biased because it is calculated WITHOUT taking in count the fact that the 360 was released 1 year before the PS3 (from what I know), I tend to consider it is not an interesting parameter IMHO

The attach rate of the 360 IS NOT DROPPING despite the 360 selling hundreds of thousand of consoles which would be the normal thing to happen if the same people were rebuying the console. How difficult is it to understand this simple logical fact ??

 

As for the ratio between the 360 and the ps3, the ratio is never linear with the consoles userbases . The xbox 360 has a more "mature" userbase in the west since it has sold far more there so it is quite normal that the ratio will be in ps3' favour and that's mopre on a game by game basis anyway. Hell the ratio in many ps2/xbox multiplatform games was much more in favour of the xbox (percentage wise) despite the HUGE difference between the userbases of the 2 consoles.

I'm not 100% sure but i think the 360 userbase has more teens and kids than the PS3 userbase, that i would say has more adults. Why?? because the 360 is cheaper, so it seems more likely that parents will get that for their kids, as they dont know or care about tech stuff. if you look at stuff like Alan Wake and Heavy Rain the sales of HR have been really good for a mature based game compared to AW which is not considered a success. 

the other thing is if you look at stuff like Kung Fu Panda and Lego Batman, they've sold more than Mass Effect 1 & 2 on the 360, suggesting a less mature userbase than on the PS3. although, by no means am i trying to start a flame war, just pointing out a possible theory...



Seece on 27 September 2010
A203D said:
johnglen said:
libellule said:
johnglen said:
libellule said:
Seece said:

rofl. Never. PS3 hasn't beaten it once there in yearly sales, and barely tops 1 mill there a year.

EA have been arse licking Sony a lot lately, I don't know why. Maybe it's because Microsoft is firmly in bed with Activision .. but then it doesn't sound like Activision love Microsoft that much, just their money!

EA is making tonne of money because of the good PS3 softwares sales

good multiplateform software sales du to the lack of hacking and the less "upgrade/remplacement hardware purchase" because of the RRoD

FIFA is a good example ....

EA has also been making tons of money because of the good xbox360 software sales for years now, so what's your point ??

 

The rest is bullshit (the blahblah blah when it comes to the 360's userbase) when the attach ratio of the 360 is by far the highest this generation, a fact that destroys all the amateurish propaganda.

well, I m sure they are making tonne of money on the 360. They are making more money on 360, let's be clearer.
But they also know those 360 people are very Gears or Halo or CoD biased (not EA games). While PS3 is lacking a "king exclusive" meaning people will tend to buy more multiplateform games (see FIFA).

At the end, multiplateform sales tend to favor PS3 compared to the "official" console user base ratio. That is why EA is loving the PS3.

And, at this question : WHY PS3 software sales on multiplateform games do not follow the userbase ratio PS3/360 ?

- there is no piracy on PS3, there are plenty on 360
- I m GUESSING the 360 userbase is "virtually" slightly inflated because of people buying more than one whatever it is because the old one was broken or because the 360 is cheaper so u can buy several for your children. I doubt many people have 2 PS3s and I doubt people bought many PS3s because their first died by RRoD ...

Also, about the attach rate you are mentionning, since this rate include the 360 exclusive or no EA games (that EA, obviously, dont give a fucking shit) AND since this attach rate is biased because it is calculated WITHOUT taking in count the fact that the 360 was released 1 year before the PS3 (from what I know), I tend to consider it is not an interesting parameter IMHO

The attach rate of the 360 IS NOT DROPPING despite the 360 selling hundreds of thousand of consoles which would be the normal thing to happen if the same people were rebuying the console. How difficult is it to understand this simple logical fact ??

 

As for the ratio between the 360 and the ps3, the ratio is never linear with the consoles userbases . The xbox 360 has a more "mature" userbase in the west since it has sold far more there so it is quite normal that the ratio will be in ps3' favour and that's mopre on a game by game basis anyway. Hell the ratio in many ps2/xbox multiplatform games was much more in favour of the xbox (percentage wise) despite the HUGE difference between the userbases of the 2 consoles.

I'm not 100% sure but i think the 360 userbase has more teens and kids than the PS3 userbase, that i would say has more adults. Why?? because the 360 is cheaper, so it seems more likely that parents will get that for their kids, as they dont know or care about tech stuff. if you look at stuff like Alan Wake and Heavy Rain the sales of HR have been really good for a mature based game compared to AW which is not considered a success. 

the other thing is if you look at stuff like Kung Fu Panda and Lego Batman, they've sold more than Mass Effect 1 & 2 on the 360, suggesting a less mature userbase than on the PS3. although, by no means am i trying to start a flame war, just pointing out a possible theory...

Gears of War?



 

A203D on 27 September 2010
Seece said:
A203D said:
johnglen said:
libellule said:
johnglen said:
libellule said:
Seece said:

rofl. Never. PS3 hasn't beaten it once there in yearly sales, and barely tops 1 mill there a year.

EA have been arse licking Sony a lot lately, I don't know why. Maybe it's because Microsoft is firmly in bed with Activision .. but then it doesn't sound like Activision love Microsoft that much, just their money!

EA is making tonne of money because of the good PS3 softwares sales

good multiplateform software sales du to the lack of hacking and the less "upgrade/remplacement hardware purchase" because of the RRoD

FIFA is a good example ....

EA has also been making tons of money because of the good xbox360 software sales for years now, so what's your point ??

 

The rest is bullshit (the blahblah blah when it comes to the 360's userbase) when the attach ratio of the 360 is by far the highest this generation, a fact that destroys all the amateurish propaganda.

well, I m sure they are making tonne of money on the 360. They are making more money on 360, let's be clearer.
But they also know those 360 people are very Gears or Halo or CoD biased (not EA games). While PS3 is lacking a "king exclusive" meaning people will tend to buy more multiplateform games (see FIFA).

At the end, multiplateform sales tend to favor PS3 compared to the "official" console user base ratio. That is why EA is loving the PS3.

And, at this question : WHY PS3 software sales on multiplateform games do not follow the userbase ratio PS3/360 ?

- there is no piracy on PS3, there are plenty on 360
- I m GUESSING the 360 userbase is "virtually" slightly inflated because of people buying more than one whatever it is because the old one was broken or because the 360 is cheaper so u can buy several for your children. I doubt many people have 2 PS3s and I doubt people bought many PS3s because their first died by RRoD ...

Also, about the attach rate you are mentionning, since this rate include the 360 exclusive or no EA games (that EA, obviously, dont give a fucking shit) AND since this attach rate is biased because it is calculated WITHOUT taking in count the fact that the 360 was released 1 year before the PS3 (from what I know), I tend to consider it is not an interesting parameter IMHO

The attach rate of the 360 IS NOT DROPPING despite the 360 selling hundreds of thousand of consoles which would be the normal thing to happen if the same people were rebuying the console. How difficult is it to understand this simple logical fact ??

 

As for the ratio between the 360 and the ps3, the ratio is never linear with the consoles userbases . The xbox 360 has a more "mature" userbase in the west since it has sold far more there so it is quite normal that the ratio will be in ps3' favour and that's mopre on a game by game basis anyway. Hell the ratio in many ps2/xbox multiplatform games was much more in favour of the xbox (percentage wise) despite the HUGE difference between the userbases of the 2 consoles.

I'm not 100% sure but i think the 360 userbase has more teens and kids than the PS3 userbase, that i would say has more adults. Why?? because the 360 is cheaper, so it seems more likely that parents will get that for their kids, as they dont know or care about tech stuff. if you look at stuff like Alan Wake and Heavy Rain the sales of HR have been really good for a mature based game compared to AW which is not considered a success. 

the other thing is if you look at stuff like Kung Fu Panda and Lego Batman, they've sold more than Mass Effect 1 & 2 on the 360, suggesting a less mature userbase than on the PS3. although, by no means am i trying to start a flame war, just pointing out a possible theory...

Gears of War?

Like i said its a theory, but i dont think its as clear cut as having a mature userbase on either console, the numbers dont tell use everything. GoW suggests that the mature user base is divided about evenly across both.



theonewhoisme on 27 September 2010
Mr Puggsly said:
theonewhoisme said:

360 is better at selling shooters and sports popular in american, ps3 is better at selling everything else, dragon age is an exception because biowares last game wasn't on ps3 

Did Fallout 3 sell better on the 360 because Oblivion came to the PS3 late?

Ultimately, WRPGs have a history of performing better on the 360. Perhaps the Fable series and original Xbox WRPGs play a roll.

So its shooters, american sports (basketball, football, boxing, skate boarding), WRPGs, board games (trivial pursuit, monopoly), and quite a few licensed games (Godfather II, Simpsons Game).

No it sold better because it was a shooter 



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theonewhoisme on 27 September 2010
goddog said:
theonewhoisme said:
goddog said:
theonewhoisme said:
goddog said:
theonewhoisme said:
goddog said:
theonewhoisme said:
goddog said:
SpartenOmega117 said:

I dont think xbox 360 will have a lead of 6 million by the end of this year. GT5 will sell consoles im sure. And sony has to be dumb not to bundle it with consoles. I think 360 will end up having a lead of maybe 4.5-5.5 million by the end of this year. And 5 million difference is not much anyways. Lets face it 360 came out a year earlier so it is natural for it to be ahead throughout this gen. The wii is a special case because well it was cheaper and was the "cool" thing to buy.

 

oh wait im going off topic. Anyways it might be possible. Blu ray sales are increasing every year. The ps3 price is decreasing every 1-2 years. Ps3 so far has the best line up for 2011. I dont think the 360 will even come close to the number of quality games ps3 will have next year. All those games might actually sell a bunch of consoles. Imagine the PS3 going $200-$250 next year too! Either way people who don't own a ps3 will be missing out. Luckily i own both 360/ps3 :)

"Ps3 so far has the best line up for 2011" deja vu for almost every year since the ps3 came out http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=5338


off topic, where have all these vgchartz .. well haters come from recently? did we piss of GAF or something? (ive never understood that squabble)... or is this a reaction to the 360 taking over weekly sales again? i reserve my hate for the NPD ...

 

edited

For the recorded I don't hate it but it is pretty inaccurate and I'm not going to pretend it is accurate, (I mean adding 1 mil because of a mistake they made four years ago with it .3 mil from shipped numbers, I mean thats just stupid)

so it would be better for them to ignore a cumulative error? also the shipped numbers are released generally a month after they hit that number, so are you comparing to the numbers form the week shipments came out or lend of quarter numbers.  and as for the 360 being .3 (was the 360 right? or did i missread your post) the last quarter before cycling to a new model your going to be cycling down shipments cutting it close while trying to avoid shortages. though i will say i did not hear or see any 360 console shortages this year, (headset shortages though... for about 3 months hard as hell to find... it would happen when i break mine)

No you don't understand, VG had sales 300,000 behind the 360s shipped numbers when they were released at the fiscal report, VG then added 1,000,000 sales because they didn't count for something that happened four years ago (ie before the fiscal report), that means that they thought the 360 had more sold then shipped which is impossible, if you are arguing that the shipped numbers might have been a bit less then everything that was shipped at that point (things that fell into the fiscal report didn't account for everything up to the date of the release) I might almost buy that if there were shortages and it wasn't by so much and if they weren't behind 2 million on the ps3s and 1 million on the wiis but there were no shortages, ps3 was the one with shortages, theres no denying their numbers are millions off  


so let me see if i get what your saying, VGC on the day they released the quarters shipping numbers (which is a month after they stop counting for that quarter) only had 300K units free the number of free units im interested in is the number for the date the tracking for the quarter information ends, im betting that was more then 300k. by the time the numbers are out for us a month later who know MS could have holding shipments for the start of the next quarter and pumped a few hundred thousand out.

do you have the exact end date of the quarter in question, vgc listed as ltd and MS ltd. not the date the report was released but the date they stopped counting for the report

 

edit sorry for the slow reply got caught up in minecraft

VG had the 360 sales at about 300k less then the amount MS said they shipped, and then a month or so later (not sure when just heard about it) they add 1 million to the 360 sales because of under tracking 4 years ago or something, so if they added it at any point before the shipped numbers for 360 came in, VG would have shown 700k more 360s sold then MS said were shipped (even if it sold that much in a month that would mean there are no 360s left in stores at all), and there were no reported shortages for 360s, where there were reported shortages of ps3s which had 2 million more shipped then VG had sold, which means VG chartz numbers are way off and inconsistent, as for the date of the report http://scrawlfx.com/2010/04/xbox-360-reaches-40-million-sold the article says april 23

thats for last 3rd quarter (srd q 2010) which ends for MS on march 30th sells through at the time on VGC are listed at 39.119k shipping from MS at 40.2k seems like a fair gap for me.

april 23 is when it was reported not when the figures are for. 

year for MS ends in june which is the Q i thought you were talking about earlier, hence why i mentioned they might be running it dry to make next years shipments look better. got another one for me

How do you know exactly what VG had it at back then, I remember it being .3 million or at least under a million, and even still your forgetting that they under-tracked it by 1 million 4 years ago and then added it a few months later, so thats still next to none in stores, when ps3 had the shortages with 2 million (plus the extra month) apparently in stores, so yeah anyway you look at it VG is wrong, they seem to be giving 360 more sales then it has and ignoring alot of ps3 sales 


vgc has an adjustments thread, please find it in there if you would. i looked up your number, and traced it. i do not remember the point in time your talking about, where it was over/under by 300k i do recal a major adjust ment for all three consoles this summer do to under tracking across the board around  year end for ms (june)

 

edit there were ps3 shortages this year? hmm i dont remember that. last year yes lots of them sporadically all year, but this year?

maybe I'm thinking of the wrong fiscal report, the one that had ps3 behind by 2 mil and it got alot of press, I remember there being ps3 shortages around that time too, and again even with all you said I'm not seeing how VG chartz is accurate, they seem to be greatly biased towards the 360, I'm pretty sure next shipped numbers we get from MS and Sony will have a difference of 4-5 million at the most, instead of the 6-7 VG chartz has, when that happens would you maintain that Sony is over shipping again, for the 3rd or 4th time according to VG chartz



theonewhoisme on 27 September 2010
A203D said:
Seece said:
A203D said:
johnglen said:
libellule said:
johnglen said:
libellule said:
Seece said:

rofl. Never. PS3 hasn't beaten it once there in yearly sales, and barely tops 1 mill there a year.

EA have been arse licking Sony a lot lately, I don't know why. Maybe it's because Microsoft is firmly in bed with Activision .. but then it doesn't sound like Activision love Microsoft that much, just their money!

EA is making tonne of money because of the good PS3 softwares sales

good multiplateform software sales du to the lack of hacking and the less "upgrade/remplacement hardware purchase" because of the RRoD

FIFA is a good example ....

EA has also been making tons of money because of the good xbox360 software sales for years now, so what's your point ??

 

The rest is bullshit (the blahblah blah when it comes to the 360's userbase) when the attach ratio of the 360 is by far the highest this generation, a fact that destroys all the amateurish propaganda.

well, I m sure they are making tonne of money on the 360. They are making more money on 360, let's be clearer.
But they also know those 360 people are very Gears or Halo or CoD biased (not EA games). While PS3 is lacking a "king exclusive" meaning people will tend to buy more multiplateform games (see FIFA).

At the end, multiplateform sales tend to favor PS3 compared to the "official" console user base ratio. That is why EA is loving the PS3.

And, at this question : WHY PS3 software sales on multiplateform games do not follow the userbase ratio PS3/360 ?

- there is no piracy on PS3, there are plenty on 360
- I m GUESSING the 360 userbase is "virtually" slightly inflated because of people buying more than one whatever it is because the old one was broken or because the 360 is cheaper so u can buy several for your children. I doubt many people have 2 PS3s and I doubt people bought many PS3s because their first died by RRoD ...

Also, about the attach rate you are mentionning, since this rate include the 360 exclusive or no EA games (that EA, obviously, dont give a fucking shit) AND since this attach rate is biased because it is calculated WITHOUT taking in count the fact that the 360 was released 1 year before the PS3 (from what I know), I tend to consider it is not an interesting parameter IMHO

The attach rate of the 360 IS NOT DROPPING despite the 360 selling hundreds of thousand of consoles which would be the normal thing to happen if the same people were rebuying the console. How difficult is it to understand this simple logical fact ??

 

As for the ratio between the 360 and the ps3, the ratio is never linear with the consoles userbases . The xbox 360 has a more "mature" userbase in the west since it has sold far more there so it is quite normal that the ratio will be in ps3' favour and that's mopre on a game by game basis anyway. Hell the ratio in many ps2/xbox multiplatform games was much more in favour of the xbox (percentage wise) despite the HUGE difference between the userbases of the 2 consoles.

I'm not 100% sure but i think the 360 userbase has more teens and kids than the PS3 userbase, that i would say has more adults. Why?? because the 360 is cheaper, so it seems more likely that parents will get that for their kids, as they dont know or care about tech stuff. if you look at stuff like Alan Wake and Heavy Rain the sales of HR have been really good for a mature based game compared to AW which is not considered a success. 

the other thing is if you look at stuff like Kung Fu Panda and Lego Batman, they've sold more than Mass Effect 1 & 2 on the 360, suggesting a less mature userbase than on the PS3. although, by no means am i trying to start a flame war, just pointing out a possible theory...

Gears of War?

Like i said its a theory, but i dont think its as clear cut as having a mature userbase on either console, the numbers dont tell use everything. GoW suggests that the mature user base is divided about evenly across both.

Um a ton of kids play gears of war so yeah..., ps3 seems to have a more mature audience though (not necessarily older) Since games like heavy rain and demon souls thrive dispite minimal advertising, compared to alan wake that go a decent amount of advertising and still hasn't even cracked a million



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epicberserk on 27 September 2010
A203D said:
Seece said:
A203D said:
johnglen said:
libellule said:
johnglen said:

EA has also been making tons of money because of the good xbox360 software sales for years now, so what's your point ??

The rest is bullshit (the blahblah blah when it comes to the 360's userbase) when the attach ratio of the 360 is by far the highest this generation, a fact that destroys all the amateurish propaganda.

well, I m sure they are making tonne of money on the 360. They are making more money on 360, let's be clearer.
But they also know those 360 people are very Gears or Halo or CoD biased (not EA games). While PS3 is lacking a "king exclusive" meaning people will tend to buy more multiplateform games (see FIFA).

At the end, multiplateform sales tend to favor PS3 compared to the "official" console user base ratio. That is why EA is loving the PS3.

And, at this question : WHY PS3 software sales on multiplateform games do not follow the userbase ratio PS3/360 ?

- there is no piracy on PS3, there are plenty on 360
- I m GUESSING the 360 userbase is "virtually" slightly inflated because of people buying more than one whatever it is because the old one was broken or because the 360 is cheaper so u can buy several for your children. I doubt many people have 2 PS3s and I doubt people bought many PS3s because their first died by RRoD ...

Also, about the attach rate you are mentionning, since this rate include the 360 exclusive or no EA games (that EA, obviously, dont give a fucking shit) AND since this attach rate is biased because it is calculated WITHOUT taking in count the fact that the 360 was released 1 year before the PS3 (from what I know), I tend to consider it is not an interesting parameter IMHO

The attach rate of the 360 IS NOT DROPPING despite the 360 selling hundreds of thousand of consoles which would be the normal thing to happen if the same people were rebuying the console. How difficult is it to understand this simple logical fact ??

 

As for the ratio between the 360 and the ps3, the ratio is never linear with the consoles userbases . The xbox 360 has a more "mature" userbase in the west since it has sold far more there so it is quite normal that the ratio will be in ps3' favour and that's mopre on a game by game basis anyway. Hell the ratio in many ps2/xbox multiplatform games was much more in favour of the xbox (percentage wise) despite the HUGE difference between the userbases of the 2 consoles.

I'm not 100% sure but i think the 360 userbase has more teens and kids than the PS3 userbase, that i would say has more adults. Why?? because the 360 is cheaper, so it seems more likely that parents will get that for their kids, as they dont know or care about tech stuff. if you look at stuff like Alan Wake and Heavy Rain the sales of HR have been really good for a mature based game compared to AW which is not considered a success. 

the other thing is if you look at stuff like Kung Fu Panda and Lego Batman, they've sold more than Mass Effect 1 & 2 on the 360, suggesting a less mature userbase than on the PS3. although, by no means am i trying to start a flame war, just pointing out a possible theory...

Gears of War?

Like i said its a theory, but i dont think its as clear cut as having a mature userbase on either console, the numbers dont tell use everything. GoW suggests that the mature user base is divided about evenly across both.

gears of war divided by both your suggesting it on both consoles that dumb gears of war is a microsoft exclusive franchise



johnglen on 27 September 2010
A203D said:
johnglen said:
libellule said:
johnglen said:
libellule said:
Seece said:

rofl. Never. PS3 hasn't beaten it once there in yearly sales, and barely tops 1 mill there a year.

EA have been arse licking Sony a lot lately, I don't know why. Maybe it's because Microsoft is firmly in bed with Activision .. but then it doesn't sound like Activision love Microsoft that much, just their money!

EA is making tonne of money because of the good PS3 softwares sales

good multiplateform software sales du to the lack of hacking and the less "upgrade/remplacement hardware purchase" because of the RRoD

FIFA is a good example ....

EA has also been making tons of money because of the good xbox360 software sales for years now, so what's your point ??

 

The rest is bullshit (the blahblah blah when it comes to the 360's userbase) when the attach ratio of the 360 is by far the highest this generation, a fact that destroys all the amateurish propaganda.

well, I m sure they are making tonne of money on the 360. They are making more money on 360, let's be clearer.
But they also know those 360 people are very Gears or Halo or CoD biased (not EA games). While PS3 is lacking a "king exclusive" meaning people will tend to buy more multiplateform games (see FIFA).

At the end, multiplateform sales tend to favor PS3 compared to the "official" console user base ratio. That is why EA is loving the PS3.

And, at this question : WHY PS3 software sales on multiplateform games do not follow the userbase ratio PS3/360 ?

- there is no piracy on PS3, there are plenty on 360
- I m GUESSING the 360 userbase is "virtually" slightly inflated because of people buying more than one whatever it is because the old one was broken or because the 360 is cheaper so u can buy several for your children. I doubt many people have 2 PS3s and I doubt people bought many PS3s because their first died by RRoD ...

Also, about the attach rate you are mentionning, since this rate include the 360 exclusive or no EA games (that EA, obviously, dont give a fucking shit) AND since this attach rate is biased because it is calculated WITHOUT taking in count the fact that the 360 was released 1 year before the PS3 (from what I know), I tend to consider it is not an interesting parameter IMHO

The attach rate of the 360 IS NOT DROPPING despite the 360 selling hundreds of thousand of consoles which would be the normal thing to happen if the same people were rebuying the console. How difficult is it to understand this simple logical fact ??

 

As for the ratio between the 360 and the ps3, the ratio is never linear with the consoles userbases . The xbox 360 has a more "mature" userbase in the west since it has sold far more there so it is quite normal that the ratio will be in ps3' favour and that's mopre on a game by game basis anyway. Hell the ratio in many ps2/xbox multiplatform games was much more in favour of the xbox (percentage wise) despite the HUGE difference between the userbases of the 2 consoles.

I'm not 100% sure but i think the 360 userbase has more teens and kids than the PS3 userbase, that i would say has more adults. Why?? because the 360 is cheaper, so it seems more likely that parents will get that for their kids, as they dont know or care about tech stuff. if you look at stuff like Alan Wake and Heavy Rain the sales of HR have been really good for a mature based game compared to AW which is not considered a success. 

the other thing is if you look at stuff like Kung Fu Panda and Lego Batman, they've sold more than Mass Effect 1 & 2 on the 360, suggesting a less mature userbase than on the PS3. although, by no means am i trying to start a flame war, just pointing out a possible theory...

By "mature" userbase i wasn't referring to the age of the consoles' owners, i was referring to the fact that the 360 has sold much more in the west which , from a certain sales' standpoint means diminishing returns in terms of buying power. (see ps2, for a better example of that). The less the owners , the more hardcore they are and the more games they are buying (the xbox360 early life is a perfect example of that)

Oh and since we are talking about the U.K i repeat everything conserning ratios is on a game by game basis, for example F1 sold  almost the same across the 2 platforms while dead rising 2 sold almost double copies on the 360.