ChichiriMuyo said:
Joelcool7 said:
ChichiriMuyo said:
These poll options suck, as neither is in anyway the correct sollution to the current delimma. The correct answer is "Mexico should legalize the sale of marijuana and drastically cut off the power of the cartels, which would force the US to reconsider legalization." 2/3 of the cartel's money comes from the sale of marijuana, and without that money how are they going to pay people to kill other people? And keep in mind that's only 90% of the illegal drugs they sell. If they could pawn the higher margin drugs off on people they would. Without marijuana as an income source, the cartels wouldn't be able to afford to fight - AND they wouldn;t have alternative revenue streams. They do as much as they can ith everything else.
To end the drug war in Mexico, all the US has to do is let people use a substance less harmful than tobacco or alcohol as they see fit. Oh, and the US, currently plagued with massive debt, could use this opportunity to gain massive tax incomes while drastically cutting back on tax costs ('cause putting people in prison is expensive).
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Where did you get those stats? All I hear about is Crack Cocain and heroine coming up from Mexico. I live in BC and we are America's biggest source of Marijuana. Also guess what here in Canada the drug gangs don't run the streets we are doing perfectly fine. So its not really all about the income either sure their are gang wars here too but what a person once every month or two getting whacked compaired to 75 bodies found in a single day.
Legalize Marijuana and the mexican cartels will simply boost the other drugs they are shipping. But what if Mexico had the military and police of a country like Canada? They could police themselves and keep the crime rate down without loosing 75 people in a day. The drug war currently being faught has the mexican government at a severe disadvantage to the drug cartels.
A better equiped and trained/paid military and police force could lower the violence and keep the drug cartels under control. Look how it benefitted Columbia I watched a news article just yesterday that said the FARC control only about 5% of columbia now, they have been beaten back into the forests. The FARC have lost most of their leadership and thanks to American intervention the country is now fairly safe compared to when the FARC controlled nearly half of the country. Drug cartels are still shipping drugs but Columbia is no longer the biggest drug growing south american country.
P.S - Legalize Marijuana and you'll have to start legalizing other drugs. Give a hand and you'll loose the arm.
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I got those stats from the DEA (a US organization devoted to fighting drugs). The don't hide it, they promote it. Check out their site and their info some time (thought it might take more time and thinking than you're used to). And because you live in Canada (that land of freer than the USA), you obviously haven't heard about it because marijuana isn't a "problem" in your country. It's, well, as legal as it is in the Netherlands. Which is to say it's not, but it's also not specifically illegal. And it's not a real "problem" in either, is it?
P.S. - That's stupid, and I can't believe someone who lives in a country where marijuana is really easy to get that still has a really low crime-rate would say that. It's not your police and military that keep the peace, it's the fact that there isn't a war against the BC growers or the culture built up around them. Canadians making money off of "illegal" drugs don't have to fight back to stay in business.
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Man you talk about me being ignorant of the US, where do you hear your facts Michael Moore. Its funny I hear it qouted all the time. Canada has 10% of the gun crimes the US does. But what all these stat quoting morons forget is that Canada also is only 10% of the size of the US. We only have around 35-million people compare that to the US.
Is Marijuana really that legal here...lol I have friends who have gone to jail for being caught with pot and got put in jail. I also witnessed at least five or six house raids on my very street for grow ops. One time I was walking home and their were SUV's blocking the road. I went around one of them to carry on my way when a guy covered in body armour packing an M-16 stepped in my way. He told me to wait a minute. I turned and saw them bust down the door and throw in smoke gernades and flash bangs. A couple minutes passed and the officer let me through. Another time I saw another house around the block getting stormed.
Up further north the army and Police banded together to raid almost an entire town of pot growers. In Alberta two mounties got killed busting another pot grow op. Just look at what we did to Marc Emery the man was selling marijuana seeds to americans, so we arrested him and deported him to the US to get a lengthly jail sentence and he is called the prince of pot.
The Police and in some cases military are very strict on pot. Sure we don't send people away for fifteen years for selling or consuming it. But we still do prosecute them and they do see jail time.
So mister no it all what exactly do you mean by practically legal? Its no more legal then it is in most states. The violence I refer to may be low and thats why I compared it to Mexico but car bombs and assasinations still happen here too. Its no less violent or dangerous then most places in the US.
P.S - I live in the murder capital of Canada, So just try and tell me how peaceful and druggy my society is.
As for my country being freer, can't argue with that we definatly have alot more freedomes then American's do. But that doesn't mean that we are any less affected by the drug trade. We are just way better at dealing with it then Mexico is, which was the whole point of this thread!
