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windbane on 08 April 2007
roadkillers said:
wii_are_better_than_ said:

Actually, the PS3 isn't much more powerful at all. In fact you could argue that the 360 is more powerful. Wait for a price drop for the PS3 if you absolutely must have it.

 

 

edit- and welcome to the forums.


 

From what I've heard the PS3 is more powerful. Dont quote me on saying this but I have heard it on big sites like IGN or gamespot. Its just that 3rd party developers have no need to make a title any better on either system. Its just that ony hasnt released any big titles yet for the PS3 thats there own. From what I've heard FFXIII is going to be visually better then Hollywood movies. Plus I have also heard that the PS3 can support more people on screen, more polygons, and much more. Im not saying I said this because I have yet to own a PS3 but thats what I heard.

My opinion is that if Sony can make Square-Enix make games for them exclusivly then they will win. Seriously if Square wanted to make there own console it would probally sell more then all three of the consoles. Seriously they make the biggest games! SERIOUSLY! SERIOUSLY! Sorry I just notice I say that alot.


Indeed, Square is why I switched to Sony from Nintendo. Now that I also enjoy Dragon Quest, if square-enix did make their own console I'm sure they'd sell. I wonder what FF13 going to the 360 would do, considering more people have the PS3 in Japan already. I suppose RPG fans would assume that means more RPGs would follow and might lean towards the 360. It's important for Sony to keep that and MGS4 exclusive for at least through the launches. A price drop would do a lot, especially before this holiday season because I think price is the biggest hurdle at this point even though online gamers would be paying less in the long run than they would for a 360. Also, it's a shame more people didn't buy 20GB PS3s because those were a good deal.

I think Sony has a lot of good exclusives: GoW, Gran Turismo, MLB: The Show, Rachet and Clank, Jak and Dexter, etc. I think Sony has much better first party titles than Microsoft as far as total sales, but of course Sony is no nintendo that seems to have revived themselves the last year especially (remember, the PSP was very close to DS sales this time last year).

Also, about that price thing that people seem to have a problem accepting in a lump sum, here's a deal for $20 a month: http://www.peachdirect.com/product.tml?sku=PS3%20SCE%2098000

That ends up being $650 but hey, that's 1 year of xbox live difference over a few years.



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wii_are_better_than_ on 08 April 2007
SpaceJase said:
Kwaad said:

I'm really curious about the new AAA games going multiplatform. From what I've read from everyone says about multiplatform games, their meant to be money farms. Not to be a AAA game. There have been some great multi-platform games. But as a reality, they are not usually the best. When a series goes multi, it usually goes downhill fast.


 I tend to agree with that analysis which is why I believe the importance of exclusives cannot be overstated - especially in Sony's case where they need to show why their system is worthy of the higher price tag.

 Ports of 360 games are the worst thing for the PS3 right now IMO. 

 I'd love to see some outstanding PS3 titles that force me into going out and buying one. Any excuse is usually good enough for me when it comes to games consoles.:D


you'll wanna wait until 08' to get a PS3 then... the big games + possible price drop are coming at that time.



roadkillers on 08 April 2007

You know what I find funny though? If a 360 exclusive goes multi people say "Well that stinks" and it gets mentioned and barely any people care and people forget about it but if a PS3 game goes multi everyone goes to a board and starts laughing and saying I told you so. It seems like people only like when exclusives go Multi if there PS3 exclusives.

Look at DMC4. On gamefaqs boards went crazy after people found out the knews. If Bioshock goes multi it wont get that many posts in that board. Maybe its because the PS3 is focused on 3 major 3rd party Support and that is/was Final Fantasy XIII, Metal Gear Solid 4, and Devil May Cry 4.



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SpaceJase on 08 April 2007
Hus said:
 


crappy ports are only a launch problem.

 


That's a bit of a naive statement. 'Crappy ports' will, I suspect, be a feature of PS3 games for a couple of years at least - until it surpasses or comes close to the 360s userbase that is. In the mean time developers will look to maximise their potential profits and reduce development costs with cross-platform games.

I predict that in the end the PS3 will win out over the 360 due to the power of the brand and the fact that it will shift units in all 3 territories. I also predict that it will be quite some time before we see many games that fully exploit the platform's potential. 



wii_are_better_than_ on 08 April 2007
roadkillers said:

You know what I find funny though? If a 360 exclusive goes multi people say "Well that stinks" and it gets mentioned and barely any people care and people forget about it but if a PS3 game goes multi everyone goes to a board and starts laughing and saying I told you so. It seems like people only like when exclusives go Multi if there PS3 exclusives.

Look at DMC4. On gamefaqs boards went crazy after people found out the knews. If Bioshock goes multi it wont get that many posts in that board. Maybe its because the PS3 is focused on 3 major 3rd party Support and that is/was Final Fantasy XIII, Metal Gear Solid 4, and Devil May Cry 4.


 

 

PS3, to put it bluntly, is just the system to laugh at this gen. PR people at sony have practically made the system a joke with all their awful claims. stuff like "rumble is last-gen" and "360/Wii isn't worth the price" and countless others. To see them hype up the console so much when everyone knows that most people don't want it makes the system easy to laugh at. It's almost the people's way of saying "I told you so" to the arrogant PR workers.

 

just my 2 cents...



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SpaceJase on 08 April 2007
roadkillers said:

You know what I find funny though? If a 360 exclusive goes multi people say "Well that stinks" and it gets mentioned and barely any people care and people forget about it but if a PS3 game goes multi everyone goes to a board and starts laughing and saying I told you so. It seems like people only like when exclusives go Multi if there PS3 exclusives.

Look at DMC4. On gamefaqs boards went crazy after people found out the knews. If Bioshock goes multi it wont get that many posts in that board. Maybe its because the PS3 is focused on 3 major 3rd party Support and that is/was Final Fantasy XIII, Metal Gear Solid 4, and Devil May Cry 4.


 There is a good reason for that though.

 Sony needs the exclusives more than MS. There's is (apparently) the more powerful console and this can only be demonstrated through exclusives. Watered down multi-format games will not do. Sony needs to show why their console is worthy of the higher price and games that are available and just as good on the 360 aren't going to do that for them.

 The PS3 needs to distinguish itself from the 360 because it is more expensive - that's why exclusive content is so important for Sony.



DRJ on 08 April 2007
wii_are_better_than_ said:

PS3, to put it bluntly, is just the system to laugh at this gen. PR people at sony have practically made the system a joke with all their awful claims. stuff like "rumble is last-gen" and "360/Wii isn't worth the price" and countless others. To see them hype up the console so much when everyone knows that most people don't want it makes the system easy to laugh at. It's almost the people's way of saying "I told you so" to the arrogant PR workers.

just my 2 cents...

 

I remember when they announced that rumble was last gen, then the next day there is an article stating that Sony reached a deal to license the rumble tech...

Sony's PR department should teach classes on what not to do, should generate a lot of $$ for them. E3 was their downfall, everything they announce is just a joke.


 



ChichiriMuyo on 08 April 2007
DRJ said:

If Square made their own system they would be limiting their customer base and would have worse sales.


Well, it'd be about the same as Sega having their own console...  Maybe a little bit better since they have bigger tittles of their own.



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Hus on 08 April 2007
SpaceJase said:
Hus said:
 


crappy ports are only a launch problem.

 


That's a bit of a naive statement. 'Crappy ports' will, I suspect, be a feature of PS3 games for a couple of years at least - until it surpasses or comes close to the 360s userbase that is. In the mean time developers will look to maximise their potential profits and reduce development costs with cross-platform games.

I predict that in the end the PS3 will win out over the 360 due to the power of the brand and the fact that it will shift units in all 3 territories. I also predict that it will be quite some time before we see many games that fully exploit the platform's potential.

 
the crappy ports is just old crap. you think game slike UR3 or Assasins reed will be bad ? hell no.
   

 



That Guy on 08 April 2007
ChichiriMuyo said:
DRJ said:

If Square made their own system they would be limiting their customer base and would have worse sales.


Well, it'd be about the same as Sega having their own console... Maybe a little bit better since they have bigger tittles of their own.


 yeah, I dont know if Square/Enix would have enough titles to support their own system. If say, EA decided to make their own console and then make all their madden games and stuff Exclusive, then they would pwn