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sieanr said:
tk1989 said:
a.l.e.x59 said:
Remember the Pippin? Yeah... The Pippin... One thing's for sure... It was definitely not "pippin."

Apple's not going outside the computer industry, and that's that!

 Umm, where have you been recently? They have released a phone and mp3 players!

http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=11326

What does my other thread have anything to do with this one?



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Smash_Brother said:

Except a lot of those kids are graphic designers, artists and musicians who make more in a year than you will in 10.

Oh wait, I have another one...

Except that Macs dual boot into windows and are more powerful windows machines than yours.

Hold on...

Except that Macs don't need to be reformatted every three months as a recommendation by the OS developer (MS actually recommends you reinstall windows every three months due to viruses and spyware).

It seems to me that a computer which gets covered in dirty things like viruses and spyware from normal operation and needs to be fixed regularly is more "childish" than a machine which stays clean and doesn't fuck up.


Macs are a niche product pure and simple.  Graphic designers and the like are the majority of Mac users.  A lot of times you will walk into a company and find a majority of windows machines with linux machines acting as servers in the back (sometimes IIS windows boxes).  Most real-world production work is done on windows machines or terminals.

Macs are also not by default more powerful than Windows machines.  Apple's hardware/vendor lockins are what reinforce this mentality along with the notoriously large pricetag attached (usually ~$250-$300 above a comparable windows box).  I'd guess that if Microsoft decided to start dictating to vendors and customers what hardware they would be forcing upon them that they could boast the same.  Luckily Microsoft gives the consumer a choice of their hardware.  While this doesn't mean the average Apple computer isn't powerful, it does mean that power comes at a price in terms of hardware choice and price.

Reformatting every three months is ignorance at its finest.  Most windows machines do not need to be reformatted every few months.  On FAT/NTFS file systems, a simple defragmentation once in a while will fix most problems.  Beyond that it's simply a matter of intelligently using the computer.  These days pretty much every piece of malicious code you run across requires some form of user error before it can be a threat and every OS is vulnerable to a stupid user (even Linux).

Macs and Windows each have their place and use in society yet both have many failings.  It's less a matter of one being better than the other than both being tools to be used for the right jobs.



a.l.e.x59 said:
sieanr said:
tk1989 said:
a.l.e.x59 said:
Remember the Pippin? Yeah... The Pippin... One thing's for sure... It was definitely not "pippin."

Apple's not going outside the computer industry, and that's that!

Umm, where have you been recently? They have released a phone and mp3 players!

http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=11326

What does my other thread have anything to do with this one?


 Yeah, i got confused by that link as well... :S



Words Of Wisdom said:

Macs are a niche product pure and simple.  Graphic designers and the like are the majority of Mac users.  A lot of times you will walk into a company and find a majority of windows machines with linux machines acting as servers in the back (sometimes IIS windows boxes).  Most real-world production work is done on windows machines or terminals.

Macs are also not by default more powerful than Windows machines.  Apple's hardware/vendor lockins are what reinforce this mentality along with the notoriously large pricetag attached (usually ~$250-$300 above a comparable windows box).  I'd guess that if Microsoft decided to start dictating to vendors and customers what hardware they would be forcing upon them that they could boast the same.  Luckily Microsoft gives the consumer a choice of their hardware.  While this doesn't mean the average Apple computer isn't powerful, it does mean that power comes at a price in terms of hardware choice and price.

Reformatting every three months is ignorance at its finest.  Most windows machines do not need to be reformatted every few months.  On FAT/NTFS file systems, a simple defragmentation once in a while will fix most problems.  Beyond that it's simply a matter of intelligently using the computer.  These days pretty much every piece of malicious code you run across requires some form of user error before it can be a threat and every OS is vulnerable to a stupid user (even Linux).

Macs and Windows each have their place and use in society yet both have many failings.  It's less a matter of one being better than the other than both being tools to be used for the right jobs.


 I've beaten this argument to death in the past and I lack the energy to do it again.

Let's just say that I used to troubleshoot both windows and Mac machines and it was an experience that will forever skew my perspective. 



"I mean, c'mon, Viva Pinata, a game with massive marketing, didn't sell worth a damn to the "sophisticated" 360 audience, despite near-universal praise--is that a sign that 360 owners are a bunch of casual ignoramuses that can't get their heads around a 'gardening' sim? Of course not. So let's please stop trying to micro-analyze one game out of hundreds and using it as the poster child for why good, non-1st party, games can't sell on Wii. (Everyone frequenting this site knows this is nonsense, and yet some of you just can't let it go because it's the only scab you have left to pick at after all your other "Wii will phail1!!1" straw men arguments have been put to the torch.)" - exindguy on Boom Blocks

Smash_Brother said:
Words Of Wisdom said:

Macs are a niche product pure and simple. Graphic designers and the like are the majority of Mac users. A lot of times you will walk into a company and find a majority of windows machines with linux machines acting as servers in the back (sometimes IIS windows boxes). Most real-world production work is done on windows machines or terminals.

Macs are also not by default more powerful than Windows machines. Apple's hardware/vendor lockins are what reinforce this mentality along with the notoriously large pricetag attached (usually ~$250-$300 above a comparable windows box). I'd guess that if Microsoft decided to start dictating to vendors and customers what hardware they would be forcing upon them that they could boast the same. Luckily Microsoft gives the consumer a choice of their hardware. While this doesn't mean the average Apple computer isn't powerful, it does mean that power comes at a price in terms of hardware choice and price.

Reformatting every three months is ignorance at its finest. Most windows machines do not need to be reformatted every few months. On FAT/NTFS file systems, a simple defragmentation once in a while will fix most problems. Beyond that it's simply a matter of intelligently using the computer. These days pretty much every piece of malicious code you run across requires some form of user error before it can be a threat and every OS is vulnerable to a stupid user (even Linux).

Macs and Windows each have their place and use in society yet both have many failings. It's less a matter of one being better than the other than both being tools to be used for the right jobs.


I've beaten this argument to death in the past and I lack the energy to do it again.

Let's just say that I used to troubleshoot both windows and Mac machines and it was an experience that will forever skew my perspective.


You have my sincerest sympathy and pity.

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I can see this as an new feature in the next Touch iPods. Nothing more though. Then it will probably utilize all the existing mobile games through iTunes.

I definitely don't see apple building a standalone game console, or even a portable game console that is marketed as a game console like the PSP or DS. Mearly a newer iPod that has that feature, possibly the next gen Touch iPods and iPhones only.



Words Of Wisdom said:
You have my sincerest sympathy and pity.

No worries.

These days, I only troubleshoot a few OSX machines and I haven't answered a call in 4-5 months.

And to avoid completely derailing the topic, I still doubt Apple will do this.

They're pretty good at knowing where their forté is and isn't and this just isn't their forté. 



"I mean, c'mon, Viva Pinata, a game with massive marketing, didn't sell worth a damn to the "sophisticated" 360 audience, despite near-universal praise--is that a sign that 360 owners are a bunch of casual ignoramuses that can't get their heads around a 'gardening' sim? Of course not. So let's please stop trying to micro-analyze one game out of hundreds and using it as the poster child for why good, non-1st party, games can't sell on Wii. (Everyone frequenting this site knows this is nonsense, and yet some of you just can't let it go because it's the only scab you have left to pick at after all your other "Wii will phail1!!1" straw men arguments have been put to the torch.)" - exindguy on Boom Blocks