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oniyide on 15 September 2010

@Gamerace  i feel you on that, I understand but in my case the accuracy issue is what made me stop playing. When the novelty glasses came off and i realized this crap dont work that well, that was it for me. I read the article it was alright and honestly I dont give a damn what most lay people like and dont like. I gotta go with whats right for me and that would be a more accurate experience. Even if the product does look a bit soulless



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Vetteman94 on 15 September 2010
oniyide said:

@vetterman94  the boxing is all over the place, the tennis gets wonky sometimes everything else is fine though. I thought the boxing had the most potential but performed the worst its a shame I like that part


why do people keep putting an R in my name?  

Anyway,  I have played Wii Sports before and while there are some minor issues,  I found no real problems other than I didnt like it



Vanbierk on 15 September 2010
Vetteman94 said:
oniyide said:

@vetterman94  the boxing is all over the place, the tennis gets wonky sometimes everything else is fine though. I thought the boxing had the most potential but performed the worst its a shame I like that part


why do people keep putting an R in my name?  

Anyway,  I have played Wii Sports before and while there are some minor issues,  I found no real problems other than I didnt like it

VectorMan, Where you say Minor, I would say major in the accuracy department...I want to be able to tune my skills at virtual golf, at archery, at table tennis....not be beaten by people who can stand there and waggle the controller back and forth...or a dog who is running around by the TV with the wii remote in it's mouth beating a 20 year old gamer because it's just that easy to play the game and anyone can really win...



Just waiting for that PS Vita to come out so I can play some full featured games on the go with that beautiful screen and control scheme...

Squilliam on 15 September 2010

With the power of Blu Ray, the PS3 can experience not just one or two shovelware games but whole compilation discs of Wii shovelware with 8-20 games on the one disc! With that much content available on one disc it might even add up to a good game if you add all the games together.



Tease.

Vanbierk on 15 September 2010
Squilliam said:

With the power of Blu Ray, the PS3 can experience not just one or two shovelware games but whole compilation discs of Wii shovelware with 8-20 games on the one disc! With that much content available on one disc it might even add up to a good game if you add all the games together.


I will admit that was a good use of shovelware humor



Just waiting for that PS Vita to come out so I can play some full featured games on the go with that beautiful screen and control scheme...

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TukTuk on 15 September 2010

Just because there are a few bad games doesn't mean they all will be bad, though with the Wii out they should know how to use a Wiimote, well unless the devs were all too hardcore to use the Wii I guess.



Gamerace on 15 September 2010
oniyide said:

@Gamerace  i feel you on that, I understand but in my case the accuracy issue is what made me stop playing. When the novelty glasses came off and i realized this crap dont work that well, that was it for me. I read the article it was alright and honestly I dont give a damn what most lay people like and dont like. I gotta go with whats right for me and that would be a more accurate experience. Even if the product does look a bit soulless


Can't fault you there.  I'm sure there'll be a market for Move.  It's only a question of how big a market.

The problem is, no one wants this to be another eyetoy with limited pick-up and quickly abandoned by developers.

And if it only ends up appealling to a portion of the already installed base, it'll be a niche product indeed.

I'm sure Sony (and MS) would love to steal some if not all of Wii's marketshare, but I'm not seeing anything from either that'll make me think it'll happen in any meaningful way.

What's really scary is that outside of gaming and tech sites there's so little buzz for these that a early launch of 3DS would totally annihilate Move and Kinect's hype factor.



 

jneul on 15 September 2010
Gamerace said:
oniyide said:

@Gamerace  i feel you on that, I understand but in my case the accuracy issue is what made me stop playing. When the novelty glasses came off and i realized this crap dont work that well, that was it for me. I read the article it was alright and honestly I dont give a damn what most lay people like and dont like. I gotta go with whats right for me and that would be a more accurate experience. Even if the product does look a bit soulless


Can't fault you there.  I'm sure there'll be a market for Move.  It's only a question of how big a market.

The problem is, no one wants this to be another eyetoy with limited pick-up and quickly abandoned by developers.

And if it only ends up appealling to a portion of the already installed base, it'll be a niche product indeed.

I'm sure Sony (and MS) would love to steal some if not all of Wii's marketshare, but I'm not seeing anything from either that'll make me think it'll happen in any meaningful way.

What's really scary is that outside of gaming and tech sites there's so little buzz for these that a early launch of 3DS would totally annihilate Move and Kinect's hype factor.


There is one problem with your argument, you have not played move for yourself, lol and sports champions, ruse, tumble and echochrome ii i have head lots of good things about those games, so not all move games are bad and we have much better coming, look at killzone 3, infamous 2, socom 4, sorcery etc.

You need to try out Sports champions, I assure you it is not soulless, and I own a wii too, and my problem was witht the accuracy even after i got wiimotion plus it still was not 1:1 i could wave my controller at the top but my mii would still hit that ball as if i was holding the wiiremote right, I can think of lots of other examples as well.



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oniyide on 15 September 2010

So the general consensus is the Wii does have some major accuracy issues in at least some of its games, thought I was going crazy



JamaicameCRAZY on 15 September 2010
Vetteman94 said:
Gamerace said:
Vetteman94 said:
Gamerace said:

The 'shovelware' is systematic of Move's bigger problem - being seen as Wii 2.0 without the personality of the Wii.

Pretty much everything in the launch line-up has been done already on Wii (most of Kinect's too) and while the tech is admittedly better, the games lack the Nintendo charm of Wii Sports.

As it is people whine that Wii's collect dust after a couple months.    If this line-up is any indication Move will collect dust after a couple days.

I don't think Socom will help.   IR pointer is superior to dual analog, but if your already great using analog sticks why go through the trouble (and arm strain) of learning how to actually aim?  If people really wanted that, FPSs on Wii would be huge.  It's not.  Won't be on Move either.

Could it be that people who want to play FPS games are not buying a Wii because there arent that many on there and the ones that are arent that great.  Where as there are plenty of them on the other 2 consoles

That is true.  But lots people own an HD system and a Wii.  If they really cherished the improved aiming IR gave, they'd get CoD on Wii (as well as or instead of HD).   Heck, if they wanted the best aiming and graphics they'd play on PC.   As is I wouldn't expect FPS on Wii to be monster sellers due to the graphics/power limitations but I would expect them to sell a lot more if motion/IR aiming matter to the FPS crowd.   It doesn't and Move owners will quickly go back to Dual analog after the novelty wears off.

Well maybe they do cherish the improved aiming the IR gave, but because their friends dont have that console they arent going to buy it.   Let face it, the majority of consoles FPS gamers are buying them for the online play, which means that they are going to be looking at which friends are buying it and which will have the best online features with first and foremost.   Both of which the Wii really lacks at compared to the other 2 consoles. 

In addition to that, it also could be that maybe that maybe the average FPS gamer doesnt understand what the advantages are for the IR pointer control system.  Im gonna guess not because if they knew,  they would be playing on PC like you said.  But introducing that control scheme to a larger group could expand the awareness of the advantages.  Let face it,  if the average CoD gamer found out he could get an advantage over his buddies just by using a different controller,  they would.

*cough cough* turbo controller.



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