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MetalGear_94 said:

@Hephaestos

Why are you so against name claiming


because I have no reason to.

 

I roleclaimed to avoid town cops to reveal themselves with false info (if I were mafia I would have waited for them to come out before doing that, like that the targets would have been set).

I explained my strat.

I reexplained my strat to the people not understanding it

I rerererere explained to the peopel still not understanding it.

where is the need of my name in all this? that's just info for the mafia.



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Could there be a cult or another mafia faction?



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Hephaestos said:

where did I say I only had 2 options? however in my mind the only logical options were these indeed. mid game it'd be just waisted in randomness. If I try to put myself forward as I did first day later on, i'd just be a lynch target.

 

on the last day scenario... I said once the kill is reflected it's 50%, anywyas, the % doesn't matter, it's a chance higher than the 0% that it would normally be....

The following post suggested to me that you have to use it the way you just did, OR at "the end game"...however dtewi defined it....assuming what you said was true.

I don't know how you would think of this as a misquote.

Hephaestos said:

for the power... there was the alternative to wait till endgame... but then you actually need to survive till then to use it.


It could've meant that I misread what you wrote but thats how it sounded to me. If you really wanted to roleclaim as you've said, how about - "I have a one time use ability to reflect people who targeted me to a random player". You should've made that explictly clear.

 

Hephaestos said:

and FoS 3ever

1) you continuously misquote me.

2) what kind of a reaction is that for a townie "i'm pissed at what happened to me last night", townies know they are helpless to mafia kills, your reaction should have been "cool I got killed but I still have 2 days to live". This is a big FoS to me, as dying is no reason to be mad as a townie, it's what is expected.

1) See above...and show me where exactly I have misquoted you ?

2) I'm cool with dying if it happens overnight....but knowing when you are gonna die sux balls. Its like there is a time bomb strapped to your ass and its distracting. Plus, I haven't revealed everything...cause I was in a hurry to go to the doctor.

I got a PM from dtewi saying that I have been "doomed". Each night, half of my total HP is drained away, so I have essentially 2 nights left to live.

So, if I had been targeted on night one, the scum probably sped up time to speed up my death...or they sped up time to get to night 2 so that they can cast this spell on me. So I'm gonna die on night 3 or 4. The PM also said that my death could only be delayed, not prevented. I assume this means that the rate of which my health is drained can be reduced by the doctor's protection (possible) or a role specifically meant to do that (unlikely).

Either way, I'd like to ask the doc not to protect me as I'm gonna die anyway and the mafia will obviously not bother to target me again as its overkill.

Hephaestos, I have reasons to not trust your roleclaim based on the results of my night actions....and a few other reasons.

1) You refuse to name claim

2) Your original role claim wasn't clear to me...and now it slightly contradicts with your "refined" one. 

3) Your role is extremely half assed...either you're spewing large amounts of elephant dung at us or not telling us 100% what your role is...which is probably why you won't name claim

4) Your role, if true, is one that perfectly suits an anti-town person. You can reflect cop investigations and possibly save yourself from coming up as "guilty" in investigations.

5) My night action results...in next post...this is the intel I was talking about...ofcourse it could mean nothing, but we don't have anything else to go on so far.



goin to school be back later



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Hephaestos said:
MetalGear_94 said:

@Hephaestos

Why are you so against name claiming


because I have no reason to.

 

I roleclaimed to avoid town cops to reveal themselves with false info (if I were mafia I would have waited for them to come out before doing that, like that the targets would have been set).

I explained my strat.

I reexplained my strat to the people not understanding it

I rerererere explained to the peopel still not understanding it.

where is the need of my name in all this? that's just info for the mafia.

A name would help to ease some nerves cause I doubt people buy your role claim.

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2) Your original role claim wasn't clear to me...and now it slightly contradicts with your "refined" one. -

I meant that your role claim keeps gradually "updating"....



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GodOfWar_3ever said:

Hephaestos said:

because I have no reason to.

 

I roleclaimed to avoid town cops to reveal themselves with false info (if I were mafia I would have waited for them to come out before doing that, like that the targets would have been set).

I explained my strat.

I reexplained my strat to the people not understanding it

I rerererere explained to the peopel still not understanding it.

where is the need of my name in all this? that's just info for the mafia.

A name would help to ease some nerves cause I doubt people buy your role claim.

It could also mean you're scum who is afraid to name claim.

Oh and -

2) Your original role claim wasn't clear to me...and now it slightly contradicts with your "refined" one. -

I meant that your role claim keeps gradually "updating"....

 

Added another part. Italics Plus Bold



I am Locke. I have 20MP and I can steal the night action of someone I wish. Each steal costs 10MP, so I can use it twice. I can only steal night temporarily (one night) and the person I stole from will get their power back for the next night.

I targeted Hephaestos last night I got the "kill" ability. And no...I didn't use it...though it was a tough decision cause I suspected nen...

So either,

The random person he reflected me to can kill.

The specific person he reflected to can kill (assuming he was lying about it being random....which is why I asked you this question)

He is a lying scum, and has the kill ability. If not, I would've gotten the reflect ability ? Either dtewi considers his reflect ability of higher priority than my steal ability, thus meaning that I stole the ability of the person I was reflected to or hephaestos is lying.



"I can only steal night temporarily (one night) and the person I stole from will get their power back for the next night."

should be

"I can only steal night actions temporarily (one night) and the person I stole from will get their power back for the next night."



GodOfWar_3ever said:


It could've meant that I misread what you wrote but thats how it sounded to me.

1) You refuse to name claim

2) Your original role claim wasn't clear to me...and now it slightly contradicts with your "refined" one. 

3) Your role is extremely half assed...either you're spewing large amounts of elephant dung at us or not telling us 100% what your role is...which is probably why you won't name claim

4) Your role, if true, is one that perfectly suits an anti-town person. You can reflect cop investigations and possibly save yourself from coming up as "guilty" in investigations.

5) My night action results...in next post...this is the intel I was talking about...ofcourse it could mean nothing, but we don't have anything else to go on so far.


yes missread is the more appropriate word for this sorry.

1) you're dead so why don't you?

2) umh?? how so

3)...

4)FF is a spell... that the party has many uses for in FF

5) will read (sorry if i'm crossing posts, at work)



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GodOfWar_3ever said:

I am Locke. I have 20MP and I can steal the night action of someone I wish. Each steal costs 10MP, so I can use it twice. I can only steal night temporarily (one night) and the person I stole from will get their power back for the next night.

I targeted Hephaestos last night I got the "kill" ability. And no...I didn't use it...though it was a tough decision cause I suspected nen...

So either,

The random person he reflected me to can kill.

The specific person he reflected to can kill (assuming he was lying about it being random....which is why I asked you this question)

He is a lying scum, and has the kill ability. If not, I would've gotten the reflect ability ? Either dtewi considers his reflect ability of higher priority than my steal ability, thus meaning that I stole the ability of the person I was reflected to or hephaestos is lying.


well i'll say thank you, cause my reflect was not useless after all =)

yes any night action on me was reflected. and if I had casted it on someone else, I myself could have been targeted by the random.

what I believe happened is this:

Night one:
Mafia Kill stolen by Gow
Doom on Gow (SK night action?)

Day 2: skipped by mafia

Night 2: scripted reaction by the twins to counter the deal

(I believe that mafia got tricked by the mod in that their skip day was only usefull if at least one of the twins was dead, though potentially removing 2 players from the game is an interesting feat for them too)



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