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Final-Fan on 22 September 2010
hatmoza said:
Kantor said:
hatmoza said:
Final-Fan said:
I am praying that the silencer is pro town.  If he's mafia then it's just ridiculous because they already are a powerful voting bloc and making themselves more powerful in that way very fast. 

On the other hand, they haven't had much success in killing and the silencer hasn't come forward which a protown might be expected to do. 

Maybe the silencer is the SK?  theRepublic VETTEMAN claims there is an SK, but he hasn't killed anyone yet.  My ability last night specifically blocked the mafia (therefore, I presume, not the SK).  Maybe they just have a choice between silence and kill and have been choosing silence all the time. 

or maybe the mafia doesn't even kill ... maybe sephiroth was the SK (murderer) and the mafia simply silence people.

In my opinion, someone silenced is just the same as them dead, except they are active.

That actually makes a lot of sense. Sephiroth is now dead (and hopefully will remain that way while we get Heph back), so if nobody dies tonight, that will be a clue.

The thing is, silencing is pretty ineffective. It doesn't stop night actions. Silence a cop, he'll still uncover you. Silence a doctor, he'll still protect the cop. And so on.

IT'S VERY EFFECTIVE!
mafia win by being at least 50% of the votes! THINK! what's the matter with you today!?

That's why I find it hard to believe it IS the mafia doing it.  If it's an SK, the mafia have probably lost a vote by now as well.  If it's pro town ... probably the same thing. 



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theprof00 on 22 September 2010
Kantor said:

Did you read the rest of that paragraph? Silencing is killing, but the person can still perform night actions. Yes, it's bad. But it's not as bad as dying.

The problem with silencing, is that it doesn't diminish the number of suspects. Think of it like this: A cop can go through every single person, one by one, and determine their alignment. When townies die, he crosses them off the list. It makes the suspect pool grow by ratio.

However, the suspect pool is still the same size and the number of suspects is relatively the same. It's even higher since we got a mafia already.

Silencing rather than killing, adds confusion, and more importantly over-confidence. Right now it looks like the town is way ahead right?

If we mislynch, nay, if 2 townies die in a row, mafia will have the majority vote.



dtewi on 22 September 2010

nen-suer is revived. Since he was killed, I am keeping his type of death, character, and role present, until his means of death will change.



Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita

Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you

Stefl1504 on 22 September 2010
Homer_Simpson said:

wow, screw you guys then, everyone has ignored my statements and is happy to have me lynched or killed, frankly the bad guys are gonna romp to victory if the good guys are this casual about getting rid of one of there own.


Who I will kill is still my decision...

But further on... I want every one to vote who he thought should be killed (nen-suer if he is revived is a no brainer)

Each person will have one vote... but to not confuse anyone dont use vote but rather something like this:

Stefl1504 kill xxx

Thanks guys... also note that I can still decide otherwise, I just want to have support deciding...



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Final-Fan on 22 September 2010

SHIT!  nen-suer just got revived. 



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Stefl1504 on 22 September 2010
Stefl1504 said:
Homer_Simpson said:

wow, screw you guys then, everyone has ignored my statements and is happy to have me lynched or killed, frankly the bad guys are gonna romp to victory if the good guys are this casual about getting rid of one of there own.


Who I will kill is still my decision...

But further on... I want every one to vote who he thought should be killed (nen-suer if he is revived is a no brainer)

Each person will have one vote... but to not confuse anyone dont use vote but rather something like this:

Stefl1504 kill xxx

Thanks guys... also note that I can still decide otherwise, I just want to have support deciding...


Okay hurry guys...

My first kill will be nen-suer... my secong will be ???



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Homer_Simpson on 22 September 2010
theprof00 said:
Kantor said:

Did you read the rest of that paragraph? Silencing is killing, but the person can still perform night actions. Yes, it's bad. But it's not as bad as dying.

The problem with silencing, is that it doesn't diminish the number of suspects. Think of it like this: A cop can go through every single person, one by one, and determine their alignment. When townies die, he crosses them off the list. It makes the suspect pool grow by ratio.

However, the suspect pool is still the same size and the number of suspects is relatively the same. It's even higher since we got a mafia already.

Silencing rather than killing, adds confusion, and more importantly over-confidence. Right now it looks like the town is way ahead right?

If we mislynch, nay, if 2 townies die in a row, mafia will have the majority vote.

then dont bloody lynch or kill me...



Final-Fan on 22 September 2010

Stefl kill nen-suer and GoW

First off, nen obviously has to go. 

Here is my thought on GoW: 
-- He claims to be linked with MG94.  One of them is probably bad.  So we get a bad guy, yay!  One townie dying is worth it, expecially when it's inevitable anyway. 
-- He is why we suspect Homer.  If he turns up bad, we can trust Homer more, especially if someone turns up tomorrow mafia-proof.  If he turns up good, we can lynch the shit out of Homer. 
-- GoW has definitely lied, which Homer has not. 

GoW's power isn't as good as Homer's, but it's not a one time use.  So that is one reason to let GoW live, but I'm sticking with my vote. 

Homer is wrong about me, but there might be a body snatcher or something.  And unless Homer is a really good actor, he seems genuine to me. 



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Stefl1504 on 22 September 2010

So... hum...

Now there are three posibilities...

killing Homer and Nen... if homer is scum - gow and FF are a little less suspicious... if he is town... both are on our to lynch list...

killing FF and Nen... somehow clearing Homer and making GoW prime lynch target if scum... if town homer is the target to be and GoW is somehow cleared...

killing GoW and Nen... well just like with FF above... just switch the two...

But if FF turns out to be town I am 100% sure that Homer is scum because he said he had an one shot ability that tells him for sure who is scum and who not...



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Homer_Simpson on 22 September 2010

hold up, Final-Fan said he was gonna revive someone and now Nen Suer is back? but Final-Fan wants him killed again asap?

Nen Suer is a bad guy, so wtf is going on here?