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Salnax said:
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I agree with the competition idea... the first games I heard hailed as zelda likes or zelda killers were in the PS2 era... before that, well zelda was supreme (still is even sales wise, but it's just not increasing as other franchises).



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Maybe it's lowering sales have something to do with the fact that the series is repetitive and predictable and reuses the same basic plot in nearly every single game.



Resident_Hazard said:

Maybe it's lowering sales have something to do with the fact that the series is repetitive and predictable and reuses the same basic plot in nearly every single game.

You are quickly turning into the very reason I always put guidelines up in most of my topics. Stop it.

Anyway, regardless, no, not unless that's something that only affects the Japanese (it's not).



wait Khuutra. Was this why you made the thread about "What do you think about the possibility of Retro Making A New Zelda". Or was that just more of a curiousity or both... though, my guess would be that, having retro do it wouldn't help Japan. Though I could be wrong. And am now confused



thelifatree said:

wait Khuutra. Was this why you made the thread about "What do you think about the possibility of Retro Making A New Zelda". Or was that just more of a curiousity or both... though, my guess would be that, having retro do it wouldn't help Japan. Though I could be wrong. And am now confused

Separate line of thought. Unrelated to this thread. Retro-made Zelda would probably bomb horrendously in Japan unless it was made to be extremely non-western.



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Khuutra said:
thelifatree said:

wait Khuutra. Was this why you made the thread about "What do you think about the possibility of Retro Making A New Zelda". Or was that just more of a curiousity or both... though, my guess would be that, having retro do it wouldn't help Japan. Though I could be wrong. And am now confused

Separate line of thought. Unrelated to this thread. Retro-made Zelda would probably bomb horrendously in Japan unless it was made to be extremely non-western.


how are the sales of Prime vs M vs old school metroid?

that could be a similar study.



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Khuutra said:
thelifatree said:

wait Khuutra. Was this why you made the thread about "What do you think about the possibility of Retro Making A New Zelda". Or was that just more of a curiousity or both... though, my guess would be that, having retro do it wouldn't help Japan. Though I could be wrong. And am now confused

Separate line of thought. Unrelated to this thread. Retro-made Zelda would probably bomb horrendously in Japan unless it was made to be extremely non-western.


Not necessarily, given that the best-selling Japanese zeldas had more elements similar to the original Metroid, elements that Retro has proven more than capable of dealing with.

Plus we'll soon have evidence as to how much pull Retro can have in Japan with a franchise that's more popular there.



Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.

Not enough rpg elements



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Hephaestos said:


how are the sales of Prime vs M vs old school metroid?

that could be a similar study.


not too good. I did a quick search as seen below... and none of the primes got above .12 million. Though it did get turned into a first person shooter with other elements while zelda I hope would not :P... so I don't know if a direct comparison is completely valid. But... if the goal is to get zelda's Japan sales up... I highly doubt this is the solution.

Pos Game Americas Japan EMEAA Worldwide
1
Metroid (NES)
メトロイド
Nintendo
1.35 1.04 0.34 2.73
2
Super Metroid (SNES)
スーパーメトロイド
Nintendo
0.58 0.71 0.13 1.42
3
Metroid 2 (GB)
メトロイド 2
Nintendo
0.86 0.56 0.34 1.76
4
Metroid Fusion (GBA)
メトロイドフュージョン
Nintendo
1.08 0.18 0.29 1.55
5
Metroid Prime (GC)
メトロイドプライム
Nintendo
1.98 0.12 0.73 2.83
6
Metroid Prime Hunters (DS)
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Nintendo
0.58 0.11 0.00 0.69
7
Metroid Prime 2: Dark Echoes (GC)
メトロイドプライム2ダークエコーズ
Nintendo
0.84 0.07 0.38 1.29
8
Famicom Mini: Metroid (GBA)
 
Nintendo
0.00 0.07 0.00 0.07
9
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption (Wii)
メトロイドプライム3 コラプション
Nintendo
0.89 0.07 0.60 1.56


Mr Khan said:
Khuutra said:
thelifatree said:

wait Khuutra. Was this why you made the thread about "What do you think about the possibility of Retro Making A New Zelda". Or was that just more of a curiousity or both... though, my guess would be that, having retro do it wouldn't help Japan. Though I could be wrong. And am now confused

Separate line of thought. Unrelated to this thread. Retro-made Zelda would probably bomb horrendously in Japan unless it was made to be extremely non-western.

Not necessarily, given that the best-selling Japanese zeldas had more elements similar to the original Metroid, elements that Retro has proven more than capable of dealing with.

Plus we'll soon have evidence as to how much pull Retro can have in Japan with a franchise that's more popular there.

As thelifatree posted, their faithful interpretation of Metroid crashed and burned horrendously in Japan.