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Lazthelost on 03 September 2010
Jordahn said:
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M.U.G.E.N said:
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M.U.G.E.N said:
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leo-j said:
Lazthelost said:

Well luckily we can all go look at the preorders and... umm... yep looks like Kinect was/is destroying Move.

 

huh...


what pre orders link me

 

This was when it first started:
http://www.thehdroom.com/news/Kinect-Pre-Orders-Begin-Outselling-Move/6970

 

This is from our very own preorder article, look at how high Kinect Adventures and Kinect Sports are. Both ahead of the only Move title on there, and Kinect still has 10 weeks until launch.
http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/81775/americas-preorders-chart-28-august-2010-metroid-other-m-jumps/

 

Oh and here is another:
http://news.punchjump.com/blog/2010/07/26/kinect-for-xbox-360-pre-order-sales-no-1-at-toys-r-us/

 

And another:
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/40209/Kinect-pre-orders-boom

 

And some more:
http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2010/07/30/kinect-pre-orders-on-the-up/

 

And again, ugh so many:
http://www.gofanboy.com/go-fanboy-news/3529-sales-projections-for-microsofts-kinect-gaining-some-ground

 

And some more:
http://www.examiner.com/la-video-game-industry-in-los-angeles/kinect-already-outselling-the-move

 

Here's another one about Move not having the buzz Kinect does:

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/29864/Analyst_Raises_Kinect_Holiday_Sales_Estimates_To_4M.php

 

etc, etc etc...

 

Do you guys get it yet?


sigh we are taljking about pre orders aren't we? That's what you talked about. so now go, and find some actual standings in 'current' pre ordeer charts (w/e you can find. amazon US/Uk or Toys R us etc.) Show us what you mean by Kinect is destroying Move according to pre orders. A quick search on n4g I can also find articles about how Move will beat kinect even if I disagree on it. So let's jsut stick your first comment that we are questioning here.

Good try but your attempted argument isn't valid towards me. None of these were from a point of view of a biased news source, let alone the fact that these are reports saying how well Kinect is "pre-ordering", not how well it will do. I've Seen plenty of articles about how Kinect will destroy move, or how kinect is going to fail and the Move succeed, none of these I posted are opinion pieces.

All of them are simply stating that Kinect is destroying Move in pre-orders, I'm sorry to break that to you. It is one thing to have an opinion, but to pretend to yourself that something doesn't count because you don't want it to is pathetic.

Did you even read the articles YOU posted? they are talking about sales in a few of them, not pre orders.

and here is what YOU said

"

Well luckily we can all go look at the preorders and... umm... yep looks like Kinect was/is destroying Move.

 

huh..."

So that's what me and darth etc are asking. Go check some pre order cahrts on both Move and Kinect now, and show us what you mean by check now and see how Kinect is destroying Move in those charts, simple. I would like to think you can comprehend such a simple question. So stop the spin, stop the BS and go show us what you meant, bring us charts so we can kill a few seals and agree with you. If you CAN'T then eat some crow and  gtfo

Uh-oh, somebodies getting upset! I'm sorry my knowledge bombs hurt you so much.

You failed.  Just face it, and grow up.

You should probably keep reading. His logic is pretty weak.



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M.U.G.E.N on 03 September 2010
Lazthelost said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
Lazthelost said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
Lazthelost said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
Lazthelost said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
Lazthelost said:
leo-j said:
Lazthelost said:

Well luckily we can all go look at the preorders and... umm... yep looks like Kinect was/is destroying Move.

 

huh...


what pre orders link me

 

This was when it first started:
http://www.thehdroom.com/news/Kinect-Pre-Orders-Begin-Outselling-Move/6970

 

This is from our very own preorder article, look at how high Kinect Adventures and Kinect Sports are. Both ahead of the only Move title on there, and Kinect still has 10 weeks until launch.
http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/81775/americas-preorders-chart-28-august-2010-metroid-other-m-jumps/

 

Oh and here is another:
http://news.punchjump.com/blog/2010/07/26/kinect-for-xbox-360-pre-order-sales-no-1-at-toys-r-us/

 

And another:
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/40209/Kinect-pre-orders-boom

 

And some more:
http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2010/07/30/kinect-pre-orders-on-the-up/

 

And again, ugh so many:
http://www.gofanboy.com/go-fanboy-news/3529-sales-projections-for-microsofts-kinect-gaining-some-ground

 

And some more:
http://www.examiner.com/la-video-game-industry-in-los-angeles/kinect-already-outselling-the-move

 

Here's another one about Move not having the buzz Kinect does:

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/29864/Analyst_Raises_Kinect_Holiday_Sales_Estimates_To_4M.php

 

etc, etc etc...

 

Do you guys get it yet?


sigh we are taljking about pre orders aren't we? That's what you talked about. so now go, and find some actual standings in 'current' pre ordeer charts (w/e you can find. amazon US/Uk or Toys R us etc.) Show us what you mean by Kinect is destroying Move according to pre orders. A quick search on n4g I can also find articles about how Move will beat kinect even if I disagree on it. So let's jsut stick your first comment that we are questioning here.

Good try but your attempted argument isn't valid towards me. None of these were from a point of view of a biased news source, let alone the fact that these are reports saying how well Kinect is "pre-ordering", not how well it will do. I've Seen plenty of articles about how Kinect will destroy move, or how kinect is going to fail and the Move succeed, none of these I posted are opinion pieces.

All of them are simply stating that Kinect is destroying Move in pre-orders, I'm sorry to break that to you. It is one thing to have an opinion, but to pretend to yourself that something doesn't count because you don't want it to is pathetic.

Did you even read the articles YOU posted? they are talking about sales in a few of them, not pre orders.

and here is what YOU said

"

Well luckily we can all go look at the preorders and... umm... yep looks like Kinect was/is destroying Move.

 

huh..."

So that's what me and darth etc are asking. Go check some pre order cahrts on both Move and Kinect now, and show us what you mean by check now and see how Kinect is destroying Move in those charts, simple. I would like to think you can comprehend such a simple question. So stop the spin, stop the BS and go show us what you meant, bring us charts so we can kill a few seals and agree with you. If you CAN'T then eat some crow and  gtfo

Uh-oh, somebodies getting upset! I'm sorry my knowledge bombs hurt you so much.


lol oh no, what hurts is you avoiding the question like a plague. :D I mean i know you love your console and all but come on now, if you made a statement like that back it up with actual proof, if not it's just a really really sad thing. Please go check the online retailers on NA and UK even, the two strongest markets for xbox. Show me how it's destroying the Move hw pre orders. PLeaSE! If not looks like someones fake bomb blew up in their faces

I'm sorry if simple logic/questions hurt your brain cells or something. I hope you recover and come back with some answers soon cuz I can't wait

Oh silly duckling, you can't turn this around on me. I said Kinect is destroying Move in pre-orders, some one asked me to show how i knew this, and I have some 8 articles that put that idea in my head.

Unfortunately for the sake of your ridiculous desires, I am not a sales Chart. Neither are you. But I love that you asked. If you have these magical charts that disprove me, I'd love to see them. Since I never claimed to have these charts, but you know of their existence, how about you share them with me. I'd love to see the actually preorders worldwide of Kinect and Move. That is unless you don't have them either, and you're pulling it out of your ass... but I don't think you would do such a thing would you?

oh you silly silly goose you :D you so funneh. I did tell you the only way as of now you can check if what you said was right or wrong. go check the online retailers who have the preorder charts. Amazon etc. They have it by region too so you can check for US and Uk....there ya go ;) some simple help for you to aid you. Not magical tho sorry, I don't take random statements out of my ass for such things. so go on now go go, I'll wait, take your time and prove your point. show us how Kinect is destroying Move when you check pre order cahrts 'now'.

Gosh you're right! I didn't realize that If I checked Amazon, then they would tell me the complete number of pre-orders of of Kinect worldwide... oh.. they don't.

Well how about in America or the Uk?... no?

Well how about any other retailers besides amazon?... no? Again?

Strange. So I guess my Kinect preorder at Gamestop doesn't count?

It is almost like you are assuming that Amazon is where everyone pre-orders. I guess by your train of thought, all the other retailers in the World that sell videogames don't matter. I mean hey, if I can just look at one store and see something, than obviously it means it is the same everywhere.

I asummed the dozens upon dozens of articles about how "Kinect is destroying the Move in preorders" was true, but you're right. I should ignore that and follow your logic, this way I can blindly trust one of the few articles that said "Move is probably gonna outsell Kinect" as fact!

man this is just getting too sad, is it so hard to accept you jumped the gun and said something stupid?

ok letm e say this it was YOU who said if we check the pre orders NOW we will see how Kinect is 'destroying' the Move

yet you now go on a tantrum and say oh nononono I refuse to believe the only charts available like Amazon cuz we are da biazedz

and did you even check Gamestop Best sellers now? You are proving how you were wrong here, not the other way around

I find this too sad to continue, accept it, what you said is complete nonsense, accept that or prove otherwise with some current pre order charts on the Hw and grow up

oh and for the record I have always said Kinect will outsell Move easily in 2010

lol i said oversell instead of outsell lolwut! edit time



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Lazthelost on 03 September 2010
steverhcp02 said:
Lazthelost said:

Oh silly duckling, you can't turn this around on me. I said Kinect is destroying Move in pre-orders, some one asked me to show how i knew this, and I gave some 8 articles that put that idea in my head.

Unfortunately for the sake of your ridiculous desires, I am not a sales Chart. Neither are you. But I love that you asked. If you have these magical charts that disprove me, I'd love to see them. Since I never claimed to have these charts, but you know of their existence, how about you share them with me. I'd love to see the actually preorders worldwide of Kinect and Move. That is unless you don't have them either, and you're pulling it out of your ass... but I don't think you would do such a thing would you?

Yeah thats not evidence. I get the idea in my head every year that the Detroit Lions will have a winning record......but that doesnt mean i can link you 8 articles written in July/August about how improved theyll be and cite it as fact.

Lots of flaws in your argument here, friend. No amount of mocking or reversing changes what youve already said.

Its not up to MUGEN to disprove your fallacies so dont try to challenge him. Youre the one who made the claim, you cant then argue he doesnt know either as a reason to let you make crazy conslusions. Bush league elementary argument there, friend. In fact its actually worse than that.

You essentially said "Kinect destroys Move in preorders" MUGEN asked for links. You obliged. Your links didnt back up what you said and then you attack MUGEN and act like hes the one who started citing irrelavent links.

haha terrible!

Weird, I figured that since August was only 3 days ago, it was still relevant, but that's beside the point. I'm not really seeing any flaws in my argument. I claimed something, and showed my reasoning for why I claimed it. End of discussion on my part. Unfortunately somebody is really upset that I don't agree with them, and that is their opinion to be. But don't act like article after article after article don't mean anything. For some reason, the ps3 elite love to argue until the other person gets bored and leaves, then everyone rejoices like it is a point for team sony.

Sorry but from what I've seen, Kinect is destroying the Move in preorders.

Suck it.



steverhcp02 on 03 September 2010

Also, Lazthehost, 2 of those links cite amazon numbers from like 2 months ago. One cites Toys R Us numbers when if you look now at Toys R Us the PS# Move bundle is actually more popular. The other an analysts prediction not preorder info and the MCV one is also an estimation and a projection extrapolated from a single store if im not mistaken

So you cant mock current Amazon sales and then argue Kinect is higher 2 months ago as your argument.....i suggest you check the depth of the water next time before you dive in head first, you do only have 60 some odd posts so you still have time to grow :)




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steverhcp02 on 03 September 2010
Lazthelost said:
steverhcp02 said:
Lazthelost said:

Oh silly duckling, you can't turn this around on me. I said Kinect is destroying Move in pre-orders, some one asked me to show how i knew this, and I gave some 8 articles that put that idea in my head.

Unfortunately for the sake of your ridiculous desires, I am not a sales Chart. Neither are you. But I love that you asked. If you have these magical charts that disprove me, I'd love to see them. Since I never claimed to have these charts, but you know of their existence, how about you share them with me. I'd love to see the actually preorders worldwide of Kinect and Move. That is unless you don't have them either, and you're pulling it out of your ass... but I don't think you would do such a thing would you?

Yeah thats not evidence. I get the idea in my head every year that the Detroit Lions will have a winning record......but that doesnt mean i can link you 8 articles written in July/August about how improved theyll be and cite it as fact.

Lots of flaws in your argument here, friend. No amount of mocking or reversing changes what youve already said.

Its not up to MUGEN to disprove your fallacies so dont try to challenge him. Youre the one who made the claim, you cant then argue he doesnt know either as a reason to let you make crazy conslusions. Bush league elementary argument there, friend. In fact its actually worse than that.

You essentially said "Kinect destroys Move in preorders" MUGEN asked for links. You obliged. Your links didnt back up what you said and then you attack MUGEN and act like hes the one who started citing irrelavent links.

haha terrible!

Weird, I figured that since August was only 3 days ago, it was still relevant, but that's beside the point. I'm not really seeing any flaws in my argument. I claimed something, and showed my reasoning for why I claimed it. End of discussion on my part. Unfortunately somebody is really upset that I don't agree with them, and that is their opinion to be. But don't act like article after article after article don't mean anything. For some reason, the ps3 elite love to argue until the other person gets bored and leaves, then everyone rejoices like it is a point for team sony.

Sorry but from what I've seen, Kinect is destroying the Move in preorders.

Suck it.


So, in your opinion then. Fair enough as long as you know its not factual hats cool. Also, telling someone to suck it will just get you banned...its better to say "i know my prides to much to admit i was wrong and i really want to insult you but i wont" That way you can tell the truth and still vent your frustration.




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Lazthelost on 03 September 2010
M.U.G.E.N said:
Lazthelost said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
Lazthelost said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
Lazthelost said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
Lazthelost said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
Lazthelost said:
leo-j said:
Lazthelost said:

Well luckily we can all go look at the preorders and... umm... yep looks like Kinect was/is destroying Move.

 

huh...


what pre orders link me

 

This was when it first started:
http://www.thehdroom.com/news/Kinect-Pre-Orders-Begin-Outselling-Move/6970

 

This is from our very own preorder article, look at how high Kinect Adventures and Kinect Sports are. Both ahead of the only Move title on there, and Kinect still has 10 weeks until launch.
http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/81775/americas-preorders-chart-28-august-2010-metroid-other-m-jumps/

 

Oh and here is another:
http://news.punchjump.com/blog/2010/07/26/kinect-for-xbox-360-pre-order-sales-no-1-at-toys-r-us/

 

And another:
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/40209/Kinect-pre-orders-boom

 

And some more:
http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2010/07/30/kinect-pre-orders-on-the-up/

 

And again, ugh so many:
http://www.gofanboy.com/go-fanboy-news/3529-sales-projections-for-microsofts-kinect-gaining-some-ground

 

And some more:
http://www.examiner.com/la-video-game-industry-in-los-angeles/kinect-already-outselling-the-move

 

Here's another one about Move not having the buzz Kinect does:

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/29864/Analyst_Raises_Kinect_Holiday_Sales_Estimates_To_4M.php

 

etc, etc etc...

 

Do you guys get it yet?


sigh we are taljking about pre orders aren't we? That's what you talked about. so now go, and find some actual standings in 'current' pre ordeer charts (w/e you can find. amazon US/Uk or Toys R us etc.) Show us what you mean by Kinect is destroying Move according to pre orders. A quick search on n4g I can also find articles about how Move will beat kinect even if I disagree on it. So let's jsut stick your first comment that we are questioning here.

Good try but your attempted argument isn't valid towards me. None of these were from a point of view of a biased news source, let alone the fact that these are reports saying how well Kinect is "pre-ordering", not how well it will do. I've Seen plenty of articles about how Kinect will destroy move, or how kinect is going to fail and the Move succeed, none of these I posted are opinion pieces.

All of them are simply stating that Kinect is destroying Move in pre-orders, I'm sorry to break that to you. It is one thing to have an opinion, but to pretend to yourself that something doesn't count because you don't want it to is pathetic.

Did you even read the articles YOU posted? they are talking about sales in a few of them, not pre orders.

and here is what YOU said

"

Well luckily we can all go look at the preorders and... umm... yep looks like Kinect was/is destroying Move.

 

huh..."

So that's what me and darth etc are asking. Go check some pre order cahrts on both Move and Kinect now, and show us what you mean by check now and see how Kinect is destroying Move in those charts, simple. I would like to think you can comprehend such a simple question. So stop the spin, stop the BS and go show us what you meant, bring us charts so we can kill a few seals and agree with you. If you CAN'T then eat some crow and  gtfo

Uh-oh, somebodies getting upset! I'm sorry my knowledge bombs hurt you so much.


lol oh no, what hurts is you avoiding the question like a plague. :D I mean i know you love your console and all but come on now, if you made a statement like that back it up with actual proof, if not it's just a really really sad thing. Please go check the online retailers on NA and UK even, the two strongest markets for xbox. Show me how it's destroying the Move hw pre orders. PLeaSE! If not looks like someones fake bomb blew up in their faces

I'm sorry if simple logic/questions hurt your brain cells or something. I hope you recover and come back with some answers soon cuz I can't wait

Oh silly duckling, you can't turn this around on me. I said Kinect is destroying Move in pre-orders, some one asked me to show how i knew this, and I have some 8 articles that put that idea in my head.

Unfortunately for the sake of your ridiculous desires, I am not a sales Chart. Neither are you. But I love that you asked. If you have these magical charts that disprove me, I'd love to see them. Since I never claimed to have these charts, but you know of their existence, how about you share them with me. I'd love to see the actually preorders worldwide of Kinect and Move. That is unless you don't have them either, and you're pulling it out of your ass... but I don't think you would do such a thing would you?

oh you silly silly goose you :D you so funneh. I did tell you the only way as of now you can check if what you said was right or wrong. go check the online retailers who have the preorder charts. Amazon etc. They have it by region too so you can check for US and Uk....there ya go ;) some simple help for you to aid you. Not magical tho sorry, I don't take random statements out of my ass for such things. so go on now go go, I'll wait, take your time and prove your point. show us how Kinect is destroying Move when you check pre order cahrts 'now'.

Gosh you're right! I didn't realize that If I checked Amazon, then they would tell me the complete number of pre-orders of of Kinect worldwide... oh.. they don't.

Well how about in America or the Uk?... no?

Well how about any other retailers besides amazon?... no? Again?

Strange. So I guess my Kinect preorder at Gamestop doesn't count?

It is almost like you are assuming that Amazon is where everyone pre-orders. I guess by your train of thought, all the other retailers in the World that sell videogames don't matter. I mean hey, if I can just look at one store and see something, than obviously it means it is the same everywhere.

I asummed the dozens upon dozens of articles about how "Kinect is destroying the Move in preorders" was true, but you're right. I should ignore that and follow your logic, this way I can blindly trust one of the few articles that said "Move is probably gonna outsell Kinect" as fact!

man this is just getting too sad, is it so hard to accept you jumped the gun and said something stupid?

ok letm e say this it was YOU who said if we check the pre orders NOW we will see how Kinect is 'destroying' the Move

yet you now go on a tantrum and say oh nononono I refuse to believe the only charts available like Amazon cuz we are da biazedz

and did you even check Gamestop Best sellers now? You are proving how you were wrong here, not the other way around

I find this too sad to continue, accept it, what you said is complete nonsense, accept that or prove otherwise with some current pre order charts on the Hw and grow up

oh and for the record I have always said Kinect will outsell Move easily in 2010

lol i said oversell instead of outsell lolwut! edit time

I'm not really seeing the sad part, did I miss something? I've got no tantrum or de biazed going on. I'm kind of perplexed as to where you got that from.  But back to what I said, as far as I've read, Kinect is having much better pre-order sales than Move. The fact you can't disprove those articles with and my claim is justification enough. Where are your sales articles about Move? You can't accept anything different than what you want to think. I'm sorry but Kinect is destroying Move in preorders.



Jadedx on 03 September 2010

Going by vgchartz pre-order numbers the Kinect is killing the move, done, end of story.



M.U.G.E.N on 03 September 2010
Lazthelost said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
Lazthelost said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
Lazthelost said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
Lazthelost said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
Lazthelost said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
Lazthelost said:
leo-j said:
Lazthelost said:

Well luckily we can all go look at the preorders and... umm... yep looks like Kinect was/is destroying Move.

 

huh...


what pre orders link me

 

This was when it first started:
http://www.thehdroom.com/news/Kinect-Pre-Orders-Begin-Outselling-Move/6970

 

This is from our very own preorder article, look at how high Kinect Adventures and Kinect Sports are. Both ahead of the only Move title on there, and Kinect still has 10 weeks until launch.
http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/81775/americas-preorders-chart-28-august-2010-metroid-other-m-jumps/

 

Oh and here is another:
http://news.punchjump.com/blog/2010/07/26/kinect-for-xbox-360-pre-order-sales-no-1-at-toys-r-us/

 

And another:
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/40209/Kinect-pre-orders-boom

 

And some more:
http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2010/07/30/kinect-pre-orders-on-the-up/

 

And again, ugh so many:
http://www.gofanboy.com/go-fanboy-news/3529-sales-projections-for-microsofts-kinect-gaining-some-ground

 

And some more:
http://www.examiner.com/la-video-game-industry-in-los-angeles/kinect-already-outselling-the-move

 

Here's another one about Move not having the buzz Kinect does:

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/29864/Analyst_Raises_Kinect_Holiday_Sales_Estimates_To_4M.php

 

etc, etc etc...

 

Do you guys get it yet?


sigh we are taljking about pre orders aren't we? That's what you talked about. so now go, and find some actual standings in 'current' pre ordeer charts (w/e you can find. amazon US/Uk or Toys R us etc.) Show us what you mean by Kinect is destroying Move according to pre orders. A quick search on n4g I can also find articles about how Move will beat kinect even if I disagree on it. So let's jsut stick your first comment that we are questioning here.

Good try but your attempted argument isn't valid towards me. None of these were from a point of view of a biased news source, let alone the fact that these are reports saying how well Kinect is "pre-ordering", not how well it will do. I've Seen plenty of articles about how Kinect will destroy move, or how kinect is going to fail and the Move succeed, none of these I posted are opinion pieces.

All of them are simply stating that Kinect is destroying Move in pre-orders, I'm sorry to break that to you. It is one thing to have an opinion, but to pretend to yourself that something doesn't count because you don't want it to is pathetic.

Did you even read the articles YOU posted? they are talking about sales in a few of them, not pre orders.

and here is what YOU said

"

Well luckily we can all go look at the preorders and... umm... yep looks like Kinect was/is destroying Move.

 

huh..."

So that's what me and darth etc are asking. Go check some pre order cahrts on both Move and Kinect now, and show us what you mean by check now and see how Kinect is destroying Move in those charts, simple. I would like to think you can comprehend such a simple question. So stop the spin, stop the BS and go show us what you meant, bring us charts so we can kill a few seals and agree with you. If you CAN'T then eat some crow and  gtfo

Uh-oh, somebodies getting upset! I'm sorry my knowledge bombs hurt you so much.


lol oh no, what hurts is you avoiding the question like a plague. :D I mean i know you love your console and all but come on now, if you made a statement like that back it up with actual proof, if not it's just a really really sad thing. Please go check the online retailers on NA and UK even, the two strongest markets for xbox. Show me how it's destroying the Move hw pre orders. PLeaSE! If not looks like someones fake bomb blew up in their faces

I'm sorry if simple logic/questions hurt your brain cells or something. I hope you recover and come back with some answers soon cuz I can't wait

Oh silly duckling, you can't turn this around on me. I said Kinect is destroying Move in pre-orders, some one asked me to show how i knew this, and I have some 8 articles that put that idea in my head.

Unfortunately for the sake of your ridiculous desires, I am not a sales Chart. Neither are you. But I love that you asked. If you have these magical charts that disprove me, I'd love to see them. Since I never claimed to have these charts, but you know of their existence, how about you share them with me. I'd love to see the actually preorders worldwide of Kinect and Move. That is unless you don't have them either, and you're pulling it out of your ass... but I don't think you would do such a thing would you?

oh you silly silly goose you :D you so funneh. I did tell you the only way as of now you can check if what you said was right or wrong. go check the online retailers who have the preorder charts. Amazon etc. They have it by region too so you can check for US and Uk....there ya go ;) some simple help for you to aid you. Not magical tho sorry, I don't take random statements out of my ass for such things. so go on now go go, I'll wait, take your time and prove your point. show us how Kinect is destroying Move when you check pre order cahrts 'now'.

Gosh you're right! I didn't realize that If I checked Amazon, then they would tell me the complete number of pre-orders of of Kinect worldwide... oh.. they don't.

Well how about in America or the Uk?... no?

Well how about any other retailers besides amazon?... no? Again?

Strange. So I guess my Kinect preorder at Gamestop doesn't count?

It is almost like you are assuming that Amazon is where everyone pre-orders. I guess by your train of thought, all the other retailers in the World that sell videogames don't matter. I mean hey, if I can just look at one store and see something, than obviously it means it is the same everywhere.

I asummed the dozens upon dozens of articles about how "Kinect is destroying the Move in preorders" was true, but you're right. I should ignore that and follow your logic, this way I can blindly trust one of the few articles that said "Move is probably gonna outsell Kinect" as fact!

man this is just getting too sad, is it so hard to accept you jumped the gun and said something stupid?

ok letm e say this it was YOU who said if we check the pre orders NOW we will see how Kinect is 'destroying' the Move

yet you now go on a tantrum and say oh nononono I refuse to believe the only charts available like Amazon cuz we are da biazedz

and did you even check Gamestop Best sellers now? You are proving how you were wrong here, not the other way around

I find this too sad to continue, accept it, what you said is complete nonsense, accept that or prove otherwise with some current pre order charts on the Hw and grow up

oh and for the record I have always said Kinect will outsell Move easily in 2010

lol i said oversell instead of outsell lolwut! edit time

I'm not really seeing the sad part, did I miss something? I've got no tantrum or de biazed going on. I'm kind of perplexed as to where you got that from.  But back to what I said, as far as I've read, Kinect is having much better pre-order sales than Move. The fact you can't disprove those articles with and my claim is justification enough. Where are your sales articles about Move? You can't accept anything different than what you want to think. I'm sorry but Kinect is destroying Move in preorders.


No helping it I guess. If you can't even go check all the sites you cited like gamestop, amazon, Toys r Us etc right now to see it for yourself then I can't do anything to help it. Have fun living in your imaginary bubble, at least it will help you stay happy I guess. I have nothing more to say to you :)



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Lazthelost on 03 September 2010
steverhcp02 said:
Lazthelost said:
steverhcp02 said:
Lazthelost said:

Oh silly duckling, you can't turn this around on me. I said Kinect is destroying Move in pre-orders, some one asked me to show how i knew this, and I gave some 8 articles that put that idea in my head.

Unfortunately for the sake of your ridiculous desires, I am not a sales Chart. Neither are you. But I love that you asked. If you have these magical charts that disprove me, I'd love to see them. Since I never claimed to have these charts, but you know of their existence, how about you share them with me. I'd love to see the actually preorders worldwide of Kinect and Move. That is unless you don't have them either, and you're pulling it out of your ass... but I don't think you would do such a thing would you?

Yeah thats not evidence. I get the idea in my head every year that the Detroit Lions will have a winning record......but that doesnt mean i can link you 8 articles written in July/August about how improved theyll be and cite it as fact.

Lots of flaws in your argument here, friend. No amount of mocking or reversing changes what youve already said.

Its not up to MUGEN to disprove your fallacies so dont try to challenge him. Youre the one who made the claim, you cant then argue he doesnt know either as a reason to let you make crazy conslusions. Bush league elementary argument there, friend. In fact its actually worse than that.

You essentially said "Kinect destroys Move in preorders" MUGEN asked for links. You obliged. Your links didnt back up what you said and then you attack MUGEN and act like hes the one who started citing irrelavent links.

haha terrible!

Weird, I figured that since August was only 3 days ago, it was still relevant, but that's beside the point. I'm not really seeing any flaws in my argument. I claimed something, and showed my reasoning for why I claimed it. End of discussion on my part. Unfortunately somebody is really upset that I don't agree with them, and that is their opinion to be. But don't act like article after article after article don't mean anything. For some reason, the ps3 elite love to argue until the other person gets bored and leaves, then everyone rejoices like it is a point for team sony.

Sorry but from what I've seen, Kinect is destroying the Move in preorders.

Suck it.


So, in your opinion then. Fair enough as long as you know its not factual hats cool. Also, telling someone to suck it will just get you banned...its better to say "i know my prides to much to admit i was wrong and i really want to insult you but i wont" That way you can tell the truth and still vent your frustration.

Actually the "Suck it" was to other peoples pride, not mine, just so you know. I'm got no frustration going on, I made my point, laid down my evidence, and gave my conclusion. All I've done these last few posts are defend my stance. Again, I'm sorry that you all are bothered by this so much. If it helps you feel better, I'll let you all keep thinking what you want. Enjoy yourselves.



steverhcp02 on 03 September 2010
Lazthelost said:
steverhcp02 said:
Lazthelost said:
steverhcp02 said:
Lazthelost said:

Oh silly duckling, you can't turn this around on me. I said Kinect is destroying Move in pre-orders, some one asked me to show how i knew this, and I gave some 8 articles that put that idea in my head.

Unfortunately for the sake of your ridiculous desires, I am not a sales Chart. Neither are you. But I love that you asked. If you have these magical charts that disprove me, I'd love to see them. Since I never claimed to have these charts, but you know of their existence, how about you share them with me. I'd love to see the actually preorders worldwide of Kinect and Move. That is unless you don't have them either, and you're pulling it out of your ass... but I don't think you would do such a thing would you?

Yeah thats not evidence. I get the idea in my head every year that the Detroit Lions will have a winning record......but that doesnt mean i can link you 8 articles written in July/August about how improved theyll be and cite it as fact.

Lots of flaws in your argument here, friend. No amount of mocking or reversing changes what youve already said.

Its not up to MUGEN to disprove your fallacies so dont try to challenge him. Youre the one who made the claim, you cant then argue he doesnt know either as a reason to let you make crazy conslusions. Bush league elementary argument there, friend. In fact its actually worse than that.

You essentially said "Kinect destroys Move in preorders" MUGEN asked for links. You obliged. Your links didnt back up what you said and then you attack MUGEN and act like hes the one who started citing irrelavent links.

haha terrible!

Weird, I figured that since August was only 3 days ago, it was still relevant, but that's beside the point. I'm not really seeing any flaws in my argument. I claimed something, and showed my reasoning for why I claimed it. End of discussion on my part. Unfortunately somebody is really upset that I don't agree with them, and that is their opinion to be. But don't act like article after article after article don't mean anything. For some reason, the ps3 elite love to argue until the other person gets bored and leaves, then everyone rejoices like it is a point for team sony.

Sorry but from what I've seen, Kinect is destroying the Move in preorders.

Suck it.


So, in your opinion then. Fair enough as long as you know its not factual hats cool. Also, telling someone to suck it will just get you banned...its better to say "i know my prides to much to admit i was wrong and i really want to insult you but i wont" That way you can tell the truth and still vent your frustration.

Actually the "Suck it" was to other peoples pride, not mine, just so you know. I'm got no frustration going on, I made my point, laid down my evidence, and gave my conclusion. All I've done these last few posts are defend my stance. Again, I'm sorry that you all are bothered by this so much. If it helps you feel better, I'll let you all keep thinking what you want. Enjoy yourselves.

So noble of you.




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