Alby_da_Wolf said:
Reasonable said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
As all XBL users are so happy, MS should increase its price every month, to make them even happier, but for some unmentionable reason it doesn't, selfish MS!!!
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I'm not sure the internet forums of the world could handle that, given how this thread has gone!
I'm amazed, really. Now I actually don't have a 360, for perfectly sensible reasons. And I'm not keen on the fee for Live, coming from a PC background I don't expect a surcharge for online gaming. And I don't think Live gives anything much beyond Steam - and in some ways less - which manages to be free.
But... it's a choice. And it's the first price hike in years so far as I know. If you're comfortable with Live then really it's not that much of a jump if you believe the service gives value for money.
If you've never been comfortable with Live and paying a fee, or don't feel it's worth the money, then really you should vote with your feet and use a PS3 or a PC for online gaming and cut out the fee (or a Wii, sorry Wii online gamers!).
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It's just what I'm doing, I use PC to play, but I don't totally agree with you about it being a choice for XB users: if XB users care only for online multiplayer, that's free on other platforms, if they want to play online XB exclusives they have to pay anyway for it bundled with a lot of features they don't care about, instead of having it included in the base free offer like everywhere else. I'm not uncomfortable with paying fees for value added features, I'm uncomfortable with MS relentless efforts to build a world where you pay for everything. And it's not a totally free choice for XB users as they aren't warned before buying the console that an important feature that is free on competitor platforms is instead a pay one on it. I get what you say, that they too could just vote with their feet, but I suspect that not all of them are as well informed as gaming forums users and quite regular gamers like us, that have all the infos we need before choosing.
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Well, yeah, the one choice you don't get is to own a 360 and play Halo 3, etc. online for free. But that's the decision you've gotta make. I'm against a flat fee because I see it increasingly in layers, either for additional services or as developers want a piece of the pie (if the next CoD performs as expected then I finally expect to see Activision square up to MS and either demand a share of the profits or add an additional layer of cost).
I'm also against Live because I believe an advertising driven model plus other approaches could be used to render it cost effective for MS and free to the user and make it more attractive.
So I play online on PC and PS3. In the end, you have to vote with your wallet. I accept people pay and feel they should have the right to do so if they chose. If enough people pay then fair enough, if enough don't then I guarantee MS would change the revenue model for Live to make it more palatable to gamers.