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lostintheodyssey said:
snfr said:
lostintheodyssey said:
VXIII said:
lostintheodyssey said:

Wow 95% of you all are too loyal only sticking to one hardware company.  I'm sure Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony love all you loyalists out there I'm sorry but I don't love any company enough to just stick to one.  Here's my list

1.  Halo Reach (360)

2. The Last Story (Wii)

3. The 3rd Birthday (PSP)

4. The Witcher 2 (PC)

5.  Tales of Graces f (PS3)

Well , some/many of us don't own more than one console , you know.


Well if that's the case they are lying on their profile then.  Many of the people I have looked at have at least 2 or 3 current gen systems listed with multiple games for each system.  But when it comes time to write a most wanted list they pick all their games for one console and ignore the other systems they claim to own even for the multiplats. 

Well, you know, I own all three systems, but I'm only looking forward to 2 Wii games and they didn't make it into my Top 5, and I'm only looking forward to 1 X360 game, but it isn't in my Top 5 most anticipated games. I also anticipated some multiplatform games, but they are not among the Top5. It just has to do with personal taste in games IMO.


Just a few comments after looking at your list

1.  Infamous 2 (PS3)  So you think this is going to be a better action adventure title than The Legend of Zelda Skyword Sword ok but you will probably be in the minority

2.  Final Fantasy Versus 13 (PS3) You like jrpgs but instead of listing what many reviewers have already called a great rpg in Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep that comes out in September from the very same Nomura or a promising jrpg like the 3rd Birthday that will be out by the end of the year in Japan you choose to list FF vs 13 a jrpg that after 4 years still has no release date or real gameplay footage just to keep your list consistent with all PS3 titles.

3.  Little Big Planet 2 (PS3) Ok you like platformers but apparently just the ps3 kind since Kirby and Donkey Kong got no love from you.  But maybe you like the level creation aspects of the game so you get a pass on this one.

4.  Killzone 3 (PS3) ok you are part of the minority that thinks Killzone is better than Halo. 

5.  Gran Turismo 5 (PS3) the only choice that made the most sense to me on this list.

Every game you listed for the PS3 had an alternative that's just as good (excluding GT 5) that releases earlier.  Even if you prefer the PS3 titles over the other games I listed the fact that those good games from the same genre are releasing much sooner in many cases should mean that they would make it on to your list before those far out PS3 games.  And those are just a few examples I can think of many other titles that fit the genre of the PS3 titles you choose that are well respected and liked.

Being in the same genre doesn't mean that the games are absolute substitutes.  I look forward to Infamous 2 because I liked the first and from what I've seen they seem to be getting even better with the sequel while Zelda hasn't excited me since the N64.  Vs. 13 could be his most looked forward to game because he likes the setting and promise of an overworld while Killzone 3 may be preferrable to Halo because he doesn't like that style of shooter and prefers something with a more realistic gameplay feel. 

Finally, we are talking about personal preferences here and there is nothing that forces people to follow what most people prefer.  This is why I am happy to be a fan of JRPGs far more than shooters even though your logic would mean I should be forced to love shooters.



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Torillian said:
lostintheodyssey said:
chocoloco said:
lostintheodyssey said:
VXIII said:
lostintheodyssey said:

Wow 95% of you all are too loyal only sticking to one hardware company.  I'm sure Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony love all you loyalists out there I'm sorry but I don't love any company enough to just stick to one.  Here's my list

1.  Halo Reach (360)

2. The Last Story (Wii)

3. The 3rd Birthday (PSP)

4. The Witcher 2 (PC)

5.  Tales of Graces f (PS3)

Well , some/many of us don't own more than one console , you know.


Well if that's the case they are lying on their profile then.  Many of the people I have looked at have at least 2 or 3 current gen systems listed with multiple games for each system.  But when it comes time to write a most wanted list they pick all their games for one console and ignore the other systems they claim to own even for the multiplats. 

Your not thinking logically because even if people own all three console and portables they can still prefer one over the other. I have all three consoles, but I buy multiplats for PS3 (usually), and only exclusives for the other two. I actually have very little interest in the wii even though I own it.


I don't think you're thinking logically because if people own all three consoles even if they prefer 1 over the other when it comes to multi plats they should buy the best version.  I prefer the 360 but I still bought the PS3 version of Final Fantasy 13 because it was the better version.  I rarely game on the PC because I am a console gamer first and foremost but I still bought the PC version of Dragon Age Origins because it was clearly the best version and I had a system that could run it at max settings.  With the internet nowadays people know weeks and months ahead of time which versions of the games are better.  

And yes it's very common for people to prefer the exclusives from one hardware company over another but can you really claim that 1 console or the pc best games #1-5 is so good that even the 5th best game on that system is better than the competing systems #1 game?  Sure I can make a 360, PS3, Wii, PC etc top 5 lists all day but other systems are going to have at least one title that I prefer.  For example I am looking forward to the wrpg Fable 3 on the 360 and it would make a top 5 most wanted 360 list but I like the Witcher wrpg series on the pc better.  The fps killzone 3 would make a top 5 PS3 list but I like the Halo franchise better.  I am looking forward to GT 5 over any other racer at the moment etc. 

You get the picture no one system has the best fps, action adventure, racing, platformer, wrpg, jrpg etc.  

If you think so then you are hopelessly biased and probably should have just stuck to buying 1 system to start with. 

 

It's not about one console having the best 5 upcoming games, but the 5 games you are looking forward to most.  I have a Wii and a PS3 and I can honestly say that there are no Wii games that I am anticipating right now more than the 5 PS3 games I listed.  That can change as more information becomes available, but for right now the things I want from the system are too far away for me to really get excited about (only things that far away that I put on the list are games like Portal 2 and TLG which make up for being far away by being sequels/by the same team as two of my favorite games ever)

So yes there are situations where one can legitimately vote for games from a single system even if they own two or more.  It's all about what you're anticipating more and if your focus is on a single system most of your anticipation will go that way.


I'll admit that I can understand your list simply because you only have a PS3 and Wii according to your profile and some of the titles you picked like The Last Guardian are very unique. 

But when people own a PS3, PC, Wii, 360, PSP, and DS and all of their most wanted games are on 1 platform I think something is wrong.  So for example everyone knows the best place to play portal 2 is on the pc so if you owned a gaming pc and still put Portal 2 PS3 on your list I would seriously have to question what logical reason you would have for doing so. 



lostintheodyssey said:
Torillian said:

It's not about one console having the best 5 upcoming games, but the 5 games you are looking forward to most.  I have a Wii and a PS3 and I can honestly say that there are no Wii games that I am anticipating right now more than the 5 PS3 games I listed.  That can change as more information becomes available, but for right now the things I want from the system are too far away for me to really get excited about (only things that far away that I put on the list are games like Portal 2 and TLG which make up for being far away by being sequels/by the same team as two of my favorite games ever)

So yes there are situations where one can legitimately vote for games from a single system even if they own two or more.  It's all about what you're anticipating more and if your focus is on a single system most of your anticipation will go that way.


I'll admit that I can understand your list simply because you only have a PS3 and Wii according to your profile and some of the titles you picked like The Last Guardian are very unique. 

But when people own a PS3, PC, Wii, 360, PSP, and DS and all of their most wanted games are on 1 platform I think something is wrong.  So for example everyone knows the best place to play portal 2 is on the pc so if you owned a gaming pc and still put Portal 2 PS3 on your list I would seriously have to question what logical reason you would have for doing so. 


That can come down to something as simple as a preference of controller.  I play any game on the PS3 over the PC or Wii because that's the controller method I enjoy the most and am the most used to.



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Torillian said:
lostintheodyssey said:
snfr said:
lostintheodyssey said:
VXIII said:
lostintheodyssey said:

Wow 95% of you all are too loyal only sticking to one hardware company.  I'm sure Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony love all you loyalists out there I'm sorry but I don't love any company enough to just stick to one.  Here's my list

1.  Halo Reach (360)

2. The Last Story (Wii)

3. The 3rd Birthday (PSP)

4. The Witcher 2 (PC)

5.  Tales of Graces f (PS3)

Well , some/many of us don't own more than one console , you know.


Well if that's the case they are lying on their profile then.  Many of the people I have looked at have at least 2 or 3 current gen systems listed with multiple games for each system.  But when it comes time to write a most wanted list they pick all their games for one console and ignore the other systems they claim to own even for the multiplats. 

Well, you know, I own all three systems, but I'm only looking forward to 2 Wii games and they didn't make it into my Top 5, and I'm only looking forward to 1 X360 game, but it isn't in my Top 5 most anticipated games. I also anticipated some multiplatform games, but they are not among the Top5. It just has to do with personal taste in games IMO.


Just a few comments after looking at your list

1.  Infamous 2 (PS3)  So you think this is going to be a better action adventure title than The Legend of Zelda Skyword Sword ok but you will probably be in the minority

2.  Final Fantasy Versus 13 (PS3) You like jrpgs but instead of listing what many reviewers have already called a great rpg in Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep that comes out in September from the very same Nomura or a promising jrpg like the 3rd Birthday that will be out by the end of the year in Japan you choose to list FF vs 13 a jrpg that after 4 years still has no release date or real gameplay footage just to keep your list consistent with all PS3 titles.

3.  Little Big Planet 2 (PS3) Ok you like platformers but apparently just the ps3 kind since Kirby and Donkey Kong got no love from you.  But maybe you like the level creation aspects of the game so you get a pass on this one.

4.  Killzone 3 (PS3) ok you are part of the minority that thinks Killzone is better than Halo. 

5.  Gran Turismo 5 (PS3) the only choice that made the most sense to me on this list.

Every game you listed for the PS3 had an alternative that's just as good (excluding GT 5) that releases earlier.  Even if you prefer the PS3 titles over the other games I listed the fact that those good games from the same genre are releasing much sooner in many cases should mean that they would make it on to your list before those far out PS3 games.  And those are just a few examples I can think of many other titles that fit the genre of the PS3 titles you choose that are well respected and liked.

Being in the same genre doesn't mean that the games are absolute substitutes.  I look forward to Infamous 2 because I liked the first and from what I've seen they seem to be getting even better with the sequel while Zelda hasn't excited me since the N64.  Vs. 13 could be his most looked forward to game because he likes the setting and promise of an overworld while Killzone 3 may be preferrable to Halo because he doesn't like that style of shooter and prefers something with a more realistic gameplay feel. 

Finally, we are talking about personal preferences here and there is nothing that forces people to follow what most people prefer.  This is why I am happy to be a fan of JRPGs far more than shooters even though your logic would mean I should be forced to love shooters.


No following my logic would mean that you would own a portable since jrpgs have been a lot stronger on the portables this gen than on consoles.  If he likes vs 13 it should mean that he likes the projects from Nomura and should want to check out his other projects like Birth by Sleep to see where Nomura might go with vs 13.

But yes let's just agree to disagree.



Torillian said:
lostintheodyssey said:
Torillian said:
lostintheodyssey said:
chocoloco said:
lostintheodyssey said:
VXIII said:
lostintheodyssey said:

Wow 95% of you all are too loyal only sticking to one hardware company.  I'm sure Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony love all you loyalists out there I'm sorry but I don't love any company enough to just stick to one.  Here's my list

1.  Halo Reach (360)

2. The Last Story (Wii)

3. The 3rd Birthday (PSP)

4. The Witcher 2 (PC)

5.  Tales of Graces f (PS3)

Well , some/many of us don't own more than one console , you know.


Well if that's the case they are lying on their profile then.  Many of the people I have looked at have at least 2 or 3 current gen systems listed with multiple games for each system.  But when it comes time to write a most wanted list they pick all their games for one console and ignore the other systems they claim to own even for the multiplats. 

Your not thinking logically because even if people own all three console and portables they can still prefer one over the other. I have all three consoles, but I buy multiplats for PS3 (usually), and only exclusives for the other two. I actually have very little interest in the wii even though I own it.


I don't think you're thinking logically because if people own all three consoles even if they prefer 1 over the other when it comes to multi plats they should buy the best version.  I prefer the 360 but I still bought the PS3 version of Final Fantasy 13 because it was the better version.  I rarely game on the PC because I am a console gamer first and foremost but I still bought the PC version of Dragon Age Origins because it was clearly the best version and I had a system that could run it at max settings.  With the internet nowadays people know weeks and months ahead of time which versions of the games are better.  

And yes it's very common for people to prefer the exclusives from one hardware company over another but can you really claim that 1 console or the pc best games #1-5 is so good that even the 5th best game on that system is better than the competing systems #1 game?  Sure I can make a 360, PS3, Wii, PC etc top 5 lists all day but other systems are going to have at least one title that I prefer.  For example I am looking forward to the wrpg Fable 3 on the 360 and it would make a top 5 most wanted 360 list but I like the Witcher wrpg series on the pc better.  The fps killzone 3 would make a top 5 PS3 list but I like the Halo franchise better.  I am looking forward to GT 5 over any other racer at the moment etc. 

You get the picture no one system has the best fps, action adventure, racing, platformer, wrpg, jrpg etc.  

If you think so then you are hopelessly biased and probably should have just stuck to buying 1 system to start with. 

 

It's not about one console having the best 5 upcoming games, but the 5 games you are looking forward to most.  I have a Wii and a PS3 and I can honestly say that there are no Wii games that I am anticipating right now more than the 5 PS3 games I listed.  That can change as more information becomes available, but for right now the things I want from the system are too far away for me to really get excited about (only things that far away that I put on the list are games like Portal 2 and TLG which make up for being far away by being sequels/by the same team as two of my favorite games ever)

So yes there are situations where one can legitimately vote for games from a single system even if they own two or more.  It's all about what you're anticipating more and if your focus is on a single system most of your anticipation will go that way.


I'll admit that I can understand your list simply because you only have a PS3 and Wii according to your profile and some of the titles you picked like The Last Guardian are very unique. 

But when people own a PS3, PC, Wii, 360, PSP, and DS and all of their most wanted games are on 1 platform I think something is wrong.  So for example everyone knows the best place to play portal 2 is on the pc so if you owned a gaming pc and still put Portal 2 PS3 on your list I would seriously have to question what logical reason you would have for doing so. 


That can come down to something as simple as a preference of controller.  I play any game on the PS3 over the PC or Wii because that's the controller method I enjoy the most and am the most used to.


You know you can connect a ps3 controller to the pc right?  And then you would enjoy all of the advantages of the pc version in addition to having your favorite controller



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lostintheodyssey said:
Torillian said:
lostintheodyssey said:


I'll admit that I can understand your list simply because you only have a PS3 and Wii according to your profile and some of the titles you picked like The Last Guardian are very unique. 

But when people own a PS3, PC, Wii, 360, PSP, and DS and all of their most wanted games are on 1 platform I think something is wrong.  So for example everyone knows the best place to play portal 2 is on the pc so if you owned a gaming pc and still put Portal 2 PS3 on your list I would seriously have to question what logical reason you would have for doing so. 


That can come down to something as simple as a preference of controller.  I play any game on the PS3 over the PC or Wii because that's the controller method I enjoy the most and am the most used to.


You know you can connect a ps3 controller to the pc right?  And then you would enjoy all of the advantages of the pc version in addition to having your favorite controller


Which is extra work for visual improvements I don't really care about much, plus having to set up my computer running through my TV so I can play on a nice big screen which means I can't surf the internet while I play.  Again, there are many reasons for not picking the platform that "everyone knows the best place to play portal 2 is on" beyond just being biased.



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Ok, I am not doing this feature anymore, but Seece has to count your votes... and a legitimate vote can easily get lost amid all this banter. (though the bump to the thread may help increase votes a little)

@ lostintheodyssey.

Some people don't have all the consoles, of those that do, many are not simply being fanboyish by voting for games more on one console than another (and it is "more" and not "all" remember this is only a top 5 anticipated titles) people have different preferences... For one they may only leave 1 console hooked up at a time, and thus get multiplats for that reason, or maybe don't like playing fast paced shooter or action games at a PC even if the PC has the "best version". You don't know what peoples situations are, or why they chose a game for  a specific platform instead of one you deem better on another platform. It is likely some voters are being fanboys yes, but we can't do anything about that.



TWRoO said:
snfr said:
lostintheodyssey said:
VXIII said:
lostintheodyssey said:

Wow 95% of you all are too loyal only sticking to one hardware company.  I'm sure Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony love all you loyalists out there I'm sorry but I don't love any company enough to just stick to one.  Here's my list

1.  Halo Reach (360)

2. The Last Story (Wii)

3. The 3rd Birthday (PSP)

4. The Witcher 2 (PC)

5.  Tales of Graces f (PS3)

Well , some/many of us don't own more than one console , you know.


Well if that's the case they are lying on their profile then.  Many of the people I have looked at have at least 2 or 3 current gen systems listed with multiple games for each system.  But when it comes time to write a most wanted list they pick all their games for one console and ignore the other systems they claim to own even for the multiplats. 

Well, you know, I own all three systems, but I'm only looking forward to 2 Wii games and they didn't make it into my Top 5, and I'm only looking forward to 1 X360 game, but it isn't in my Top 5 most anticipated games. I also anticipated some multiplatform games, but they are not among the Top5. It just has to do with personal taste in games IMO.

I agree with you, I don't have the money for more than 1 system, but if I had lots of spare cash I would likely have at least a PS3 in addition to the Wii, maybe an X360 too... but compared the the Wii not that many games interest me, so while a few may pop up now and again (in the ealy days I might have put GT5 on there being a racing fan, but it's such a ridiculously long wait I don't care anymore) my usual list would be 4-5 Wii games.

Yeah I understand people like you only buy one console its just the people who own basically every system and still create a list that only includes one systems games that I don't understand. 



Torillian said:
lostintheodyssey said:
Torillian said:
lostintheodyssey said:
 


I'll admit that I can understand your list simply because you only have a PS3 and Wii according to your profile and some of the titles you picked like The Last Guardian are very unique. 

But when people own a PS3, PC, Wii, 360, PSP, and DS and all of their most wanted games are on 1 platform I think something is wrong.  So for example everyone knows the best place to play portal 2 is on the pc so if you owned a gaming pc and still put Portal 2 PS3 on your list I would seriously have to question what logical reason you would have for doing so. 


That can come down to something as simple as a preference of controller.  I play any game on the PS3 over the PC or Wii because that's the controller method I enjoy the most and am the most used to.


You know you can connect a ps3 controller to the pc right?  And then you would enjoy all of the advantages of the pc version in addition to having your favorite controller


Which is extra work for visual improvements I don't really care about much, plus having to set up my computer running through my TV so I can play on a nice big screen which means I can't surf the internet while I play.  Again, there are many reasons for not picking the platform that "everyone knows the best place to play portal 2 is on" beyond just being biased.

That was a weak argument you just made.  Having to set up your computer to run through your tv is as simple as plugging in an hdmi tv the same as my ps3.  You surf the internet on your ps3 while you play on it wow you have to show me that trick/s?  Extra work for visual improvements is worth it sometimes ask anyone who has seen both The Orange Box and Dragon Age Origins PS3 running side by side with the PC counterpart.  And besides the visual aspect you ignore that PC games are usually cheaper.  And who do you think Valve primarily a PC developer is going to give the best deals and most extras to for Portal 2 PC gamers or console gamers.

Yes there are reasons for not picking the best plaform to play a certain game on but you didn't list any valid ones but that's just my personal opinion of course.

Edit) An example of a reason I would understand.  I don't experience this but many people I know do and I don't know why but they are addicted to trophies.  If someone only chooses a 360 or PS3 version of a game to complete everything there is to be done and collect every achievement or platinum a game has then I understand their logic for doing it.  I just thought of someone who got the PS3 version of Bayonetta because of this.



lostintheodyssey said:
Torillian said:
lostintheodyssey said:
Torillian said:
lostintheodyssey said:
 


I'll admit that I can understand your list simply because you only have a PS3 and Wii according to your profile and some of the titles you picked like The Last Guardian are very unique. 

But when people own a PS3, PC, Wii, 360, PSP, and DS and all of their most wanted games are on 1 platform I think something is wrong.  So for example everyone knows the best place to play portal 2 is on the pc so if you owned a gaming pc and still put Portal 2 PS3 on your list I would seriously have to question what logical reason you would have for doing so. 


That can come down to something as simple as a preference of controller.  I play any game on the PS3 over the PC or Wii because that's the controller method I enjoy the most and am the most used to.


You know you can connect a ps3 controller to the pc right?  And then you would enjoy all of the advantages of the pc version in addition to having your favorite controller


Which is extra work for visual improvements I don't really care about much, plus having to set up my computer running through my TV so I can play on a nice big screen which means I can't surf the internet while I play.  Again, there are many reasons for not picking the platform that "everyone knows the best place to play portal 2 is on" beyond just being biased.

That was a weak argument you just made.  Having to set up your computer to run through your tv is as simple as plugging in an hdmi tv the same as my ps3.  You surf the internet on your ps3 while you play on it wow you have to show me that trick/s?  Extra work for visual improvements is worth it sometimes ask anyone who has seen both The Orange Box and Dragon Age Origins PS3 running side by side with the PC counterpart.  And besides the visual aspect you ignore that PC games are usually cheaper.  And who do you think Valve primarily a PC developer is going to give the best deals and most extras to for Portal 2 PC gamers or console gamers.

Yes there are reasons for not picking the best plaform to play a certain game on but you didn't list any valid ones but that's just my personal opinion.


I play games on the PS3 while using the computer next to my TV for surfing the internet, it's one of the great things of small apartment life.  That's why I can watch It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia while I type this.

If you want to ignore that then how about people who would go with the PS3 over PC for Portal 2 so they can earn trophies, just another reason to not go with the "ideal" platform.  PC games are usually cheaper but I'm not going to change my decision over 10 bucks.  How about choosing the PS3 because your friends are all on PS3 and you want someone to play the coop with?  Or you want to play the coop locally which would be difficult on computer? 



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