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dallas on 25 August 2010
Vetteman94 said:
dallas said:

It's not a quagmire......  3d movies will push greater blu-ray and Sony TV and Sony movie projector and 3d film camera sales.  The next XBOX will probably use blu-ray because by then, the hardware will be considerably more advanced, which means that either MS will have 3 discs for every game, or they will just use 1 blu-ray and give the XBOX customers the ability to watch blu-ray movies.  The choice for MS is clear, they will want blu.

And why wouldnt they,  they are already making money off of Blu-ray

MS is making $$$ off of blu-ray?



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Vetteman94 on 25 August 2010
dallas said:
Vetteman94 said:
dallas said:

It's not a quagmire......  3d movies will push greater blu-ray and Sony TV and Sony movie projector and 3d film camera sales.  The next XBOX will probably use blu-ray because by then, the hardware will be considerably more advanced, which means that either MS will have 3 discs for every game, or they will just use 1 blu-ray and give the XBOX customers the ability to watch blu-ray movies.  The choice for MS is clear, they will want blu.

And why wouldnt they,  they are already making money off of Blu-ray

MS is making $$$ off of blu-ray?

Its a small amount per Blu-ray disc,like fractions of pennies, but yes.  Microsoft developed one of the video codecs that are used for Blu-ray discs.  



dallas on 25 August 2010
Vetteman94 said:
dallas said:
Vetteman94 said:
dallas said:

It's not a quagmire......  3d movies will push greater blu-ray and Sony TV and Sony movie projector and 3d film camera sales.  The next XBOX will probably use blu-ray because by then, the hardware will be considerably more advanced, which means that either MS will have 3 discs for every game, or they will just use 1 blu-ray and give the XBOX customers the ability to watch blu-ray movies.  The choice for MS is clear, they will want blu.

And why wouldnt they,  they are already making money off of Blu-ray

MS is making $$$ off of blu-ray?

Its a small amount per Blu-ray disc,like fractions of pennies, but yes.  Microsoft developed one of the video codecs that are used for Blu-ray discs.  


oh, well just a codec then?  cool for MS i guess



dallas on 25 August 2010
Vetteman94 said:
dallas said:
Vetteman94 said:
dallas said:

It's not a quagmire......  3d movies will push greater blu-ray and Sony TV and Sony movie projector and 3d film camera sales.  The next XBOX will probably use blu-ray because by then, the hardware will be considerably more advanced, which means that either MS will have 3 discs for every game, or they will just use 1 blu-ray and give the XBOX customers the ability to watch blu-ray movies.  The choice for MS is clear, they will want blu.

And why wouldnt they,  they are already making money off of Blu-ray

MS is making $$$ off of blu-ray?

Its a small amount per Blu-ray disc,like fractions of pennies, but yes.  Microsoft developed one of the video codecs that are used for Blu-ray discs.  


oh, well just a codec then?  cool for MS i guess



Nomad Blue on 25 August 2010
Vetteman94 said:

No he doesnt since Blu-ray is out pacing DD.  I posted a link about it in the Blu-ray sales tracking thread in my sig

Yeh, I thought i'd read that in the blu-ray thread.  Figured i'd ask in case they've come across some new info(/or to call them out if they were making things up).



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Cypher1980 on 25 August 2010
Nomad Blue said:
Vetteman94 said:

No he doesnt since Blu-ray is out pacing DD.  I posted a link about it in the Blu-ray sales tracking thread in my sig

Yeh, I thought i'd read that in the blu-ray thread.  Figured i'd ask in case they've come across some new info(/or to call them out if they were making things up).

Do the DD figures include streaming ?

I only ask as streaming is insanely popular in Europe and DD is nearly non existant !



Nomad Blue on 25 August 2010
Cypher1980 said:

Do the DD figures include streaming ?

I only ask as streaming is insanely popular in Europe and DD is nearly non existant !


How popular is insanely popular? (I only ask because I don't know anyone that streams movies)



Vetteman94 on 25 August 2010
Cypher1980 said:
Nomad Blue said:
Vetteman94 said:

No he doesnt since Blu-ray is out pacing DD.  I posted a link about it in the Blu-ray sales tracking thread in my sig

Yeh, I thought i'd read that in the blu-ray thread.  Figured i'd ask in case they've come across some new info(/or to call them out if they were making things up).

Do the DD figures include streaming ?

I only ask as streaming is insanely popular in Europe and DD is nearly non existant !

It does, but it only covers US



Alby_da_Wolf on 25 August 2010
dallas said:
Vetteman94 said:
dallas said:
Vetteman94 said:
dallas said:

It's not a quagmire......  3d movies will push greater blu-ray and Sony TV and Sony movie projector and 3d film camera sales.  The next XBOX will probably use blu-ray because by then, the hardware will be considerably more advanced, which means that either MS will have 3 discs for every game, or they will just use 1 blu-ray and give the XBOX customers the ability to watch blu-ray movies.  The choice for MS is clear, they will want blu.

And why wouldnt they,  they are already making money off of Blu-ray

MS is making $$$ off of blu-ray?

Its a small amount per Blu-ray disc,like fractions of pennies, but yes.  Microsoft developed one of the video codecs that are used for Blu-ray discs.  


oh, well just a codec then?  cool for MS i guess

Yep, while on HD-DVD MS owned that same codec, PLUS the whole most used implementation of HD-DVD's subsystem for interactive contents (it wasn't the only possible, but it was by far the most used). What's worst for MS is that besides not owning BD's interactive subsistem, BD uses a Java derivative for the task,  and MS really hates Java and its platform independence.

I won't buy a BD device until at least BD writers for PC are cheap, but I SO love how it makes ballmer-boyz rabid!   



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Squilliam on 25 August 2010

The problem for Blu Ray is that people as a whole aren't willing to pay a premium for them. Its not that people wouldn't want the best format possible, they just aren't as of yet willing to pay that much more for it. I noticed at my local video rental place that the Blu Ray section has hardly expanded in over a year. I hardly rent videos anymore but it was quite surprising. So whilst Blu Ray is going to be worth a lot of money to the participating companies, it is probably not going to be worth nearly as much as was originally anticipated. 



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