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TauKappaNASA said:

This thread is ridiculous....Sour grapes written all over it. Get to where I'm I'm at today without a degree. Good luck....Am I'm not being arrogant. I'm doing what I have dreamed since I was a kid and I'm just saying there is no way I'd be here right now if I didn't go to college (a cheap state school for the record).

Providing my own view/opinion on College. Graduating from college and ending up on the unemployment scrap heap. There is an over supply of graduates and a limited supply of jobs and a lack of experience.  It may sound like I am just making excuses and whining. 

 

 



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It all depends on the degree and what you want to do. I've done nothing but stock grocery's for nine yrs. I really wish I would have went to college are some kind of trade school for that matter,but I'm 30 and broke all the time,so it's alittle to late for me. Yes,that's sour grapes on my part. lol



oldschoolfool said:

It all depends on the degree and what you want to do. I've done nothing but stock grocery's for nine yrs. I really wish I would have went to college are some kind of trade school for that matter,but I'm 30 and broke all the time,so it's alittle to late for me. Yes,that's sour grapes on my part. lol

Never to late...



College degrees used to be a guarantee of success.

Now, the lack of one is almost always a guarantee of no success.

It is true that in some cases, trade school or sheer force of will better serve an individual.  However, think about it, in most cases, places will not take you into their management training programs without that four-year degree.

The OP is correct that you need to do your research before you start. A lot of places can leave you with a near-meaningless degree (because of the subject you selected or the reputation of the institution) and a mountain-sized debt. Other places can cost you relatively little and prepare you quite well.

But the OP saying college is not necessary in all cases is incorrect. It is more than "slaving" -- it is demonstrating the ability to learn and be trained.

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Well the OP has a point, their was an other thread like this where their were vids of people who had a degree and could not find a job...it only give them a debt..

But yeah that is life, some have all the luck while others try hard and accomplish hardly anything..

I was lucky I could make my dream true they could pay me 20.000 € a month or 1.000 € it does not matter I love my job :).



 

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I was too lazy for College.  Accounting was my major and I hated it. It felt like banging your head against a brick wall. Economics, finance and other business majors just as boring. The heart has to be in it and you have to work hard at time management. Procrastination and leaving things to the last minute is my motto. Skipping lectures, downloading lecture notes and only attending tutorials.  Cramming was my only way of passing mid semesters and exams. 



oldschoolfool said:

It all depends on the degree and what you want to do. I've done nothing but stock grocery's for nine yrs. I really wish I would have went to college are some kind of trade school for that matter,but I'm 30 and broke all the time,so it's alittle to late for me. Yes,that's sour grapes on my part. lol

It's never too late to get back into learning. Even if you can only go part-time to courses at your local community college, that's still something, and it's a lot better than nothing.



numonex said:

I was too lazy for College.  Accounting was my major and I hated it. It felt like banging your head against a brick wall. Economics, finance and other business majors just as boring. The heart has to be in it and you have to work hard at time management. Procrastination and leaving things to the last minute is my motto. Skipping lectures, downloading lecture notes and only attending tutorials.  Cramming was my only way of passing mid semesters and exams. 


Thats ridiculous. If you want a well paying job after you graduate your going to be competing with other people that have college degrees for that job. Just having a degree is not enough, you have to have a good gpa, recommendations from professors, done research with professors or completed an internship.

Basically you barely scraped by in college and got passed over by other college graduates because they had all the things listed above that you don't and now your bitter and complaining about some socialist propaganda. Not to mention you got a business degree in the biggest recession in recent memory where even experienced business men can't get a job. Suck it up and either go back to college and excel at what you do or good luck finding a job in this recession with sub standard credentials.



                                           

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oldschoolfool said:

It all depends on the degree and what you want to do. I've done nothing but stock grocery's for nine yrs. I really wish I would have went to college are some kind of trade school for that matter,but I'm 30 and broke all the time,so it's alittle to late for me. Yes,that's sour grapes on my part. lol

It is not too late.  However, try over 40, with student loan debt and no job.  This is worse than what you have.  I am currently staying with family.



numonex said:

I was too lazy for College.  Accounting was my major and I hated it. It felt like banging your head against a brick wall. Economics, finance and other business majors just as boring. The heart has to be in it and you have to work hard at time management. Procrastination and leaving things to the last minute is my motto. Skipping lectures, downloading lecture notes and only attending tutorials.  Cramming was my only way of passing mid semesters and exams. 


With every post it becomes clearer and clearer why you think college is a waste of time.

  • You didn't do you research before picking your college-- check.
  • You didn't have passion for your major-- check.
  • You didn't attend class-- check.
  • You did everything last minute-- check.
  • You crammed for every test-- check.

It doesn't take a college degree to realize that's a massive recipe for failure.  Did you even ever attend any resume workshops or career fairs?

For all those people that have degrees but can't find a job-- how hard did you try?

  • Did you have a generic resume and cover letter?
  • Did you have a resume and cover letter tailored to every specific interview?
  • Did you research every company you applied to?
  • Do you send a follow-up letter or make a thank you call?
  • Did you proof read your resume and cover letter?
  • Did you attend resume workshops?

Trying to find a real job should feel like a full time job because it's a lot of work.  You have to rework your resume and cover countless times, manage contacts, and constantly follow up with every person that interviewed you.  When you're not researching a company or reworking your cover letter resume, you should be reading on how to make your cover letter and resume better.

I know I'm putting a lot of emphasis on the cover letter and resume here and that's because those could not be more important.  It's amazing how many bad resumes I see and I don't even see them that often.  They're so often poorly organized, too wordy, too long (I've seen a seven page resume for an entry level position before!), people that don't even bother with cover letters, typos, and more.

I'm sorry to rant, but if you're applying and your resume isn't absolutely perfect you shouldn't even bother applying.  If you can't be bothered to spell check your resume and make sure it has consistent formatting, why should a potential employer be bothered to interview you (I know one guy the moment he sees a type or non-consistent formatting he simply throws the resume away)?  There's no reasons what-so-ever for your resume to not be perfect.

I would be willing to be that if most of the people complaining having a degree and no job spent a few weeks working on their resumes and cover letters while attending resume workshops they could find a job.