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jstam said:
Louis277 said:
jstam said:
 

Umm there was nothing fantastic about the AI in zelda, there was great level design which made the game moderately hard, but the AI? come on, no half decent gamer died because the enemy was too smart.............


But this is not stupid as well. Zelda's enemy AI keep on growing especially at the end round.

 


 Nope sorry, there was NOTHING amazing about zeldas AI, honestly if zeldas enemys where at the least bit hard it would of made for a more amazing game. In the end the enemys didn't even need to be there, they where way too easy and more just a nuisance than anything else


Really ? that's your opinion and I will respect you ! But for me, the AI of Zelda is good !



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just two things I want to add to this discussion: 1) PS3 has 256MB RAM. You don't add your video RAM to your PC's RAM do you? No, because video RAM is very specialised and can only be used for certain things. Same with PS3. So definitely 256 MB RAM. However, at the same time, it is unfair to say Xbox 360 has double the RAM, since its 512 is shared between the video and the CPU. Most likely it'll be split 50/50 by many developers anyway. 2) While AI is very computer intensive, it takes very different types of computers to do AI. While the CELL looks very good in terms of raw processing power, which could make for very powerful physics/graphics calculations, but the CELL is definitely not designed for AI, which requires lots of branch prediction and other things which are useless for physics and graphics. The SPE's are basically useless in this case, and the AI will have to be handled completely by the PPE, making it essentially worse than the Xbox360 for AI, and not incredibly more powerful than the Wii.



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omgwtfbbq said:
just two things I want to add to this discussion: 1) PS3 has 256MB RAM. You don't add your video RAM to your PC's RAM do you? No, because video RAM is very specialised and can only be used for certain things. Same with PS3. So definitely 256 MB RAM. However, at the same time, it is unfair to say Xbox 360 has double the RAM, since its 512 is shared between the video and the CPU. Most likely it'll be split 50/50 by many developers anyway. 2) While AI is very computer intensive, it takes very different types of computers to do AI. While the CELL looks very good in terms of raw processing power, which could make for very powerful physics/graphics calculations, but the CELL is definitely not designed for AI, which requires lots of branch prediction and other things which are useless for physics and graphics. The SPE's are basically useless in this case, and the AI will have to be handled completely by the PPE, making it essentially worse than the Xbox360 for AI, and not incredibly more powerful than the Wii.

The PS3 has 256MB XDR and 256MB GDDR3 and the GPU can access the CPU memory. The 360 has 512 GDDR3 shared between the CPU and GPU....For laughs the Wii has 24 MB internal 1T-SRAM integrated into graphics package, 64 MB external GDDR3 SDRAM, 3 MB GPU texture memory..*snicker*



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johnlucas said:

I see it all over the forums & comment boards on the internet.

This Wii thing has got people besides themselves. They are rooting for this system NOT to be a success & hoping it will ultimately fail. It comes out in overt and covert ways but there is a current of thought that seems irked that Wii even exists.

What do you think causes this?

Actually I sort of know the reasons but I just want to get you all's take on the chafing that Wii brings to some people.

John Lucas 

 

Only thing I can think of is because those Sony / MS fanboys feel insulted by a machine which it's power is based on gameplay and fun and not on graphics. They're threatned because the WII doesn't have the same power as their precious PS3 / 360, but is selling 2-3 or even 4 times more. Therefore typical fanboys, calls the WII a "fad", because they can't stand a less powerfull machine is selling more then theirs.

If the WII wouldn't sell that much, you seriously wouldn't hear those same people complaining, but pointing at Nintendo fans and by calling them losers because of their "fad" console. That's basically the whole point... I guess.



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WiiGirl76 said:
johnlucas said:

I see it all over the forums & comment boards on the internet.

This Wii thing has got people besides themselves. They are rooting for this system NOT to be a success & hoping it will ultimately fail. It comes out in overt and covert ways but there is a current of thought that seems irked that Wii even exists.

What do you think causes this?

Actually I sort of know the reasons but I just want to get you all's take on the chafing that Wii brings to some people.

John Lucas 

 

Only thing I can think of is because those Sony / MS fanboys feel insulted by a machine which it's power is based on gameplay and fun and not on graphics. They're threatned because the WII doesn't have the same power as their precious PS3 / 360, but is selling 2-3 or even 4 times more. Therefore typical fanboys, calls the WII a "fad", because they can't stand a less powerfull machine is selling more then theirs.

If the WII wouldn't sell that much, you seriously wouldn't here those same people complaining, but pointing at Nintendo fans and by calling them losers because of their "fad" console. That's basicially the whole point... I guess.


 

Not this nonsense again! How many times do you nintendo fanboys need to be told that the Wii does NOT have a monoply on FUN and that the 360 and the PS3 provide that to and that someof us have MORE fun with the 360 and PS3 than the Wii...All systems are based on FUN and nintendo does not have a monopoly on it and just because our system have alot of power doesn't mean they are not FUN. We don't think your system is FUN and don't like the direction it is bring the industry, Lord.

I don't mean to come across as angry..But everywhere I go I see Nintendo fanboys say..Our teh systems is teh bedders becoose it based on funz and yoos isn'ts!!!! Wii FTW! I get tired of hearing this untrue crap a million times!



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I like improvements in graphics and processor power as well. And the industry has a very fast pace as it is. But when you push too-far-too-quick, there are consequences, and mainly that consequence is money. Personally, if Sony had waited a year, reduced the price to about $400 and by-then would have had rumble back in, the console would appear moderately more appealing to me. But personally I'll never pay more than $300 for a video game machine, no matter how many extra features it has.



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PS360N64PSXBOX said:
WiiGirl76 said:
johnlucas said:

I see it all over the forums & comment boards on the internet.

This Wii thing has got people besides themselves. They are rooting for this system NOT to be a success & hoping it will ultimately fail. It comes out in overt and covert ways but there is a current of thought that seems irked that Wii even exists.

What do you think causes this?

Actually I sort of know the reasons but I just want to get you all's take on the chafing that Wii brings to some people.

John Lucas 

 

Only thing I can think of is because those Sony / MS fanboys feel insulted by a machine which it's power is based on gameplay and fun and not on graphics. They're threatned because the WII doesn't have the same power as their precious PS3 / 360, but is selling 2-3 or even 4 times more. Therefore typical fanboys, calls the WII a "fad", because they can't stand a less powerfull machine is selling more then theirs.

If the WII wouldn't sell that much, you seriously wouldn't here those same people complaining, but pointing at Nintendo fans and by calling them losers because of their "fad" console. That's basicially the whole point... I guess.


 

Not this nonsense again! How many times do you nintendo fanboys need to be told that the Wii does NOT have a monoply on FUN and that the 360 and the PS3 provide that to and that someof us have MORE fun with the 360 and PS3 than the Wii...All systems are based on FUN and nintendo does not have a monopoly on it and just because our system have alot of power doesn't mean they are not FUN. We don't think your system is FUN and don't like the direction it is bring the industry, Lord.

I don't mean to come across as angry..But everywhere I go I see Nintendo fanboys say..Our teh systems is teh bedders becoose it based on funz and yoos isn'ts!!!! Wii FTW! I get tired of hearing this untrue crap a million times!

Like I'm sick and tired of the constant bashing from people like you! So it's alright for you to bash on Nintendo fans, but when I just give an objective and clear statement of why I think people are complaining about the WII, then it's nonsense?!

It's nothing but a psychological point of view, but if you can't face that fact of truth, then that's your problem and not mine.



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vanguardian1 said:
Personally, if Sony had waited a year, reduced the price to about $400 and by-then would have had rumble back in, the console would appear moderately more appealing to me.
 

So it looks like PS3 will appeal to you, maybe not in a year but... price around $300 and rumble back in... I would say... 2009

There is a few million people who will pay $600 - $800 for PS3 right now though.

 



 PS360N64PSXBOX wins this thread with his pot calling the kettle black post.

 

Epic!

 



WiiGirl76 said:
PS360N64PSXBOX said:
WiiGirl76 said:
johnlucas said:

I see it all over the forums & comment boards on the internet.

This Wii thing has got people besides themselves. They are rooting for this system NOT to be a success & hoping it will ultimately fail. It comes out in overt and covert ways but there is a current of thought that seems irked that Wii even exists.

What do you think causes this?

Actually I sort of know the reasons but I just want to get you all's take on the chafing that Wii brings to some people.

John Lucas 

 

Only thing I can think of is because those Sony / MS fanboys feel insulted by a machine which it's power is based on gameplay and fun and not on graphics. They're threatned because the WII doesn't have the same power as their precious PS3 / 360, but is selling 2-3 or even 4 times more. Therefore typical fanboys, calls the WII a "fad", because they can't stand a less powerfull machine is selling more then theirs.

If the WII wouldn't sell that much, you seriously wouldn't here those same people complaining, but pointing at Nintendo fans and by calling them losers because of their "fad" console. That's basicially the whole point... I guess.


 

Not this nonsense again! How many times do you nintendo fanboys need to be told that the Wii does NOT have a monoply on FUN and that the 360 and the PS3 provide that to and that someof us have MORE fun with the 360 and PS3 than the Wii...All systems are based on FUN and nintendo does not have a monopoly on it and just because our system have alot of power doesn't mean they are not FUN. We don't think your system is FUN and don't like the direction it is bring the industry, Lord.

I don't mean to come across as angry..But everywhere I go I see Nintendo fanboys say..Our teh systems is teh bedders becoose it based on funz and yoos isn'ts!!!! Wii FTW! I get tired of hearing this untrue crap a million times!

Like I'm sick and tired of the constant bashing from people like you! So it's alright for you to bash on Nintendo fans, but when I just give an objective and clear statement of why I think people are complaining about the WII, then it's nonsense?!

It's nothing but a psychological point of view, but if you can't face that fact of truth, then that's your problem and not mine.


Waaa Waaa Waaaa!!!! Somebody call the Waabulance, we have a bleeder!

 

Your post was nonsense. Claiming we feel threatened by the Wii's weak power? LOL! WRONG!

We feel insulted because your system is based on fun and not graphics? LOL! WRONG! All systems are based on fun!!!!

 

We can't stand a less powerful system selling better? LOL! WRONG! Power has little to do with it! It's the MD!

Get it right little fanboy, your post wasn't well reasoned facts but pure fanboyish garbage! Get off your high horse. There is more to this than power..get a clue!



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Prediciting the Future - The PS3 will pass the Wii by 2009!!