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Soleron on 10 August 2010
sapphi_snake said:
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What?  Are you serious? LotR was based on Christianity. Gandalf was the equivalent of Jesus in that universe. There were lotsof Christian those books.

No. The author specifically and frequently stated that LotR was not allegory. To anything. Ever.

There are plenty of books you could argue that for, but not LotR.



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sapphi_snake on 10 August 2010
spdk1 said:

There is a fine line with an overtly "atheist" character (i.e. they talk about it all the time). 

It can be done well as with the following:

 

House

Bones

Sheldon Cooper

 

The problem with these characters is that they very negative characteristics which doesn't put them in a good light: House is nihilistic, alchoholic, amoral and a jerk, Bones has Asperger's Syndrome (or something like it), and if you've ever seen The Big Bang Theory you'll know that Shelldon most likely has Asperger's Syndrome and is a major a-hole most of the time (even his friends don't even like him that much).



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Soleron on 10 August 2010
sapphi_snake said:
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The problem with these characters is that they very negative characteristics which doesn't put them in a good light: House is nihilistic, alchoholic, amoral and a jerk, Bones has Asperger's Syndrome (or something like it), and if you've ever seen The Big Bang Theory you'll know that Shelldon most likely has Asperger's Syndrome and is a major a-hole most of the time (even his friends don't even like him that much).

Maybe there should be a topic on portrayal of Asperger's Syndrome.

I'm diagnosed with it by the way. I've yet to see a 'normal' portrayal, only exaggerated ones. Makes good TV, but hardly helps awareness.



sapphi_snake on 10 August 2010
Soleron said:
sapphi_snake said:
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The problem with these characters is that they very negative characteristics which doesn't put them in a good light: House is nihilistic, alchoholic, amoral and a jerk, Bones has Asperger's Syndrome (or something like it), and if you've ever seen The Big Bang Theory you'll know that Shelldon most likely has Asperger's Syndrome and is a major a-hole most of the time (even his friends don't even like him that much).

Maybe there should be a topic on portrayal of Asperger's Syndrome.

I'm diagnosed with it by the way. I've yet to see a 'normal' portrayal, only exaggerated ones. Makes good TV, but hardly helps awareness.

I know. Take Grey's Anatomy for exampole. They had a character with Asperger's but it seemed like the writers just googled "Asperger's Syndrome" saw the symptoms and made a character having all of them. They never seem to make such charatcers be liek real people. This is what bugs me about american TV shows. A lot of characters whose entire personality revolves around their sexual orientation/religious beliefs/mental disorders.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

spdk1 on 10 August 2010
Soleron said:
sapphi_snake said:
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The problem with these characters is that they very negative characteristics which doesn't put them in a good light: House is nihilistic, alchoholic, amoral and a jerk, Bones has Asperger's Syndrome (or something like it), and if you've ever seen The Big Bang Theory you'll know that Shelldon most likely has Asperger's Syndrome and is a major a-hole most of the time (even his friends don't even like him that much).

Maybe there should be a topic on portrayal of Asperger's Syndrome.

I'm diagnosed with it by the way. I've yet to see a 'normal' portrayal, only exaggerated ones. Makes good TV, but hardly helps awareness.

I definitely agree, as someone that has someone very close with Asperger's, its disheartening to see what goes on sometimes.  I've heard that the movie "Adam" is a good movie for awareness.



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spdk1 on 10 August 2010

I forgot to mention that BSG has a lot of religious overtones due to the original shows relation to the Mormonh faith:

 

http://www.beliefnet.com/Entertainment/Movies/2005/05/Born-Again-Battlestar.aspx



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Kasz216 on 10 August 2010
sapphi_snake said:
Kasz216 said:

One of the aliens has to leave their suit to save someones lives.  One guy who is a member of a race that does believe in gods though, sees nothing, because he never beleived in any of their 49 gods.

It was an interesting and fun way to show his atheism and it was interesting in how he regretted not being able to see something so wonderous like everybody else did.  I mean being able to see a giant glowing angel descend from the heavens would be quite the site to see.

Wow, glad I never watched that show. It's disgustin really, the atheist regretting not being religious.

You wouldn't regret not being able to see something that was more amazing then anything you've seen in your life? Seriously?  I'd say you have issues if that's the case.

There are other atheists on the show for what it's worth.



Kasz216 on 10 August 2010
Soleron said:
sapphi_snake said:
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The problem with these characters is that they very negative characteristics which doesn't put them in a good light: House is nihilistic, alchoholic, amoral and a jerk, Bones has Asperger's Syndrome (or something like it), and if you've ever seen The Big Bang Theory you'll know that Shelldon most likely has Asperger's Syndrome and is a major a-hole most of the time (even his friends don't even like him that much).

Maybe there should be a topic on portrayal of Asperger's Syndrome.

I'm diagnosed with it by the way. I've yet to see a 'normal' portrayal, only exaggerated ones. Makes good TV, but hardly helps awareness.

You may find this article interesting.

http://www.nj.com/entertainment/tv/index.ssf/2010/02/how_tv_shows_try_or_choose_not.html



sapphi_snake on 10 August 2010

Oh the poor atheist that's blind to the "truth". This annoys me.

Were those even real angels/gods whatever?



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

Kasz216 on 10 August 2010
sapphi_snake said:

Oh the poor athist that's blind to the "truth". This annoys me.

Were those even real angels/gods whatever?

No, they were aliens... like I said.   In fact, their largest rivals suggest that they are seen that way because of the genetic manipulation done to the "younger" races via gentic modification.

It wasn't that he was blind to seeing something freakin awesome that had everyone else speachless.

The guy is an atheist until the day he dies.  He just missed out on something awesome and was an interesting wrinkle to what the vorlons did.



Both the "Angel" race and their rival race are generally show to be just as bad as each other and kicked out of the universe by young races.