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contestgamer on 03 September 2010
Slimebeast said:
Kamal said:
Slimebeast said:
Kamal said:
Slimebeast said:

Geez Carl. I thought you were this nice anti-immigration bloke but then you keep spewing that hate against Israel.

Like you spew hate on every other Middle Eastern state that isn't Israel.

 

What does immigration have to do with being Pro-Israel anyway?

If the Mid East nations weren't against the West and Israel I would have nothing against them.

Most major nationalist parties in Europe are pro-Israel.

What has mid east done to the western nations which Israel hasn't done tenfold to lets say Syria, Lebanon or civilians in the Gaza strip.


This all boils down to a clash of ideologies and intolerance to co-exist with eachother.

They started it. Syria and Lebanon were among the Arab nations that attacked Israel in 1948. And before the war in 1982, Lebanon had allowed PLO headquarters and terror operations against Israel from within Lebanon.

Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005 and what did the civilians in Gaza do? Vote Hamas to power and start rocket attacks.


What a coincidence that Israel happened to declare itself independent nation state in 1948. You make it seem like they were just attacked out of the blue. They werent.



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contestgamer on 03 September 2010
Slimebeast said:
superchunk said:
Slimebeast said:
Kamal said:
Slimebeast said:
superchunk said:

At one time I strongly argued for a full retreat to the green line and financial repayment to Palestinians for Arab homes within Israel that are lost to the millions of refugees. However, I've come to believe now that the only real solution is a full annexation of WB/Gaza by Israel with immediate full rights bestowed on the Arab populace, including refugees. However, Israel is at best to do that for WB only. In the end it wouldn't matter as time would be on Arab's side and they would quickly return to the majority population.

Another solution is that the Palestinian refugees stop calling themselves Palestinians and accept that they're Arabs who can live anywhere in the huge Arab world.

Israel belongs to the Jews, not anyone else.

Says who exactly?

Because the Jews are the people who have the strongest historical connection to the territory and because Israel is acknowledged by the UN as a Jewish sovereign nation.

That's BS. Arabs have lived there as a majority for hundreds of years longer than Jews ever did. Jews only think they havea  stronger connection due to their narrow minded history.

People lived there before Jews migrated there and Arabs moved in after Romans kicked them out. Again, the Dome of the Rock has stood longer than BOTH Jewish temples COMBINED, by hundreds of years.

But Jews came there long before the Arabs, and they're there now.

And the First Jewish temple was built more than a thousand years before the Dome, and they still have the Western Wall which is a remnant of the Second Temple. And hopefully some day a full temple will be rebuilt. 


Yes, they're there now and you could say that THAT is the problem. Frankly speaking Israel shouldn't be there. It's a nation that was just set up, literally by the British, out of thin air after WW2. And this at the expense of Palestine. If Israel wanted the land then grab your guns and grab it . But having someone (who had no authority over the territory in the first place) give you the land as essentially an appeasement and then say its yours is wrong. What is America lost the war and Russia decided to give China Texas for all their hardship at the hands of the Japanese? Would you like that?



Zlejedi on 03 September 2010
zgamer5 said:
ArnoldRimmer said:
zgamer5 said:

you are seriously going to trust a western article.

want the real story?

isreal installed a camera on the border, but a tree was blocking it, so they came inside lebanon to chop off the tree, hezoballh was their, and they are going to shoot at them, so the army fired some shots, then an isreali tank fired killing 3 civilians, i think one isreali died, or some got injured im not sure.

I don't quite see why a western article should be less credible than an eastern article in general.

But I have to admit the version you posted seems indeed quite plausible to me.

Well, in the end the big question is: On which side was the tree really? That can't be that hard to judge, so we should know very soon.

If the tree was indeed on the lebanese side, the whole incident was Israels fault and Israel illegally invaded Lebanon. If the tree was on the Israeli side, it was the lebanese fault and Israel's reaction was justified.


well because in the article they talk to an isreali, and not to an isreali and to a lebanese, also most western articles tend to favor isreal, as the west supports them.

the tree was on the lebanese side, only reason the army shot at them was because hezzab allah were preparing to retaliate, and since it was the army which shot the size of the incident decreased. if hezzab allah shot it would have probably caused a war, but the army shot and know everything is over.

isreal and hezzab allah always provoke each other to cause a war, but most of the times its threw speeches and on tv.

LoL most of press in EU is completly biased against Israel.

Well not really suprising considering they are mostly run by euro-socialists.



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