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ssj12 said:
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http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/38474711/ns/today-books/?gt1=43001

Ann Rice has her reasons and i can respect that, but I don't think she needed quit Christianity.

If you quit Christianity, what are your reasons?

 


Its a false religion. Follows tales from other religions.

Christianity is a false religion?  or all religion are false?

well the majority is false, but Christianity is probably one of the worst offenders for stolen tales and stories from past religions. Majority of all Christian tales from Adam and Eve the birth of Jesus is stolen from Sumarian tales.

Well, most people already know that the Roman Empire at the time amalgamated  Christianity with it's current pagan traditions and customs when it became the offical religion, but at the same time you do realize the whole comparison that the "Bible" stole it stories from the Egyptians, Sumarian's ect is completely misrepresented by people like Peter Joseph and Joran Maxwell who never back up their theories with actual evidence but instead quote wack jobs like Zachariah Sitchin, Manly P. Hall, and Helena Blavatsky ( which the latter two were lucifereans)

Zeitgeist refuted final cut is a real good video to watch if your interested

http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_291314&feature=iv&v=GYNmFQkHBaE

and here's a pretty good site as well

http://conspiracyclothes.com/nowheretorun/?page_id=212



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It's sad that a big reason that people stop believing in god and christ is due to the fact that you have these hypocritical religious leades and the catholic church (who is the worst of them all) go out and create their own doctrines and try and manipulate the bible to suit their own needs. Interesting enough there's a verse in the bible  where Jesus says some pretty cool shit about those guys

"1 Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples, 2 “The teachers of religious law and the Pharisees are the official interpreters of the law of Moses.[a] 3 So practice and obey whatever they tell you, but don’t follow their example. For they don’t practice what they teach. 4 They crush people with unbearable religious demands and never lift a finger to ease the burden. 5 “Everything they do is for show. On their arms they wear extra wide prayer boxes with Scripture verses inside, and they wear robes with extra long tassels." - Mathew 23 1-5 (New Living Translation)

 

 



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Nirvana_Nut85 said:
ssj12 said:
Coca-Cola said:
ssj12 said:
Coca-Cola said:

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/38474711/ns/today-books/?gt1=43001

Ann Rice has her reasons and i can respect that, but I don't think she needed quit Christianity.

If you quit Christianity, what are your reasons?

 


Its a false religion. Follows tales from other religions.

Christianity is a false religion?  or all religion are false?

well the majority is false, but Christianity is probably one of the worst offenders for stolen tales and stories from past religions. Majority of all Christian tales from Adam and Eve the birth of Jesus is stolen from Sumarian tales.

Well, most people already know that the Roman Empire at the time amalgamated  Christianity with it's current pagan traditions and customs when it became the offical religion, but at the same time you do realize the whole comparison that the "Bible" stole it stories from the Egyptians, Sumarian's ect is completely misrepresented by people like Peter Joseph and Joran Maxwell who never back up their theories with actual evidence but instead quote wack jobs like Zachariah Sitchin, Manly P. Hall, and Helena Blavatsky ( which the latter two were lucifereans)

Zeitgeist refuted final cut is a real good video to watch if your interested

http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_291314&feature=iv&v=GYNmFQkHBaE

and here's a pretty good site as well

http://conspiracyclothes.com/nowheretorun/?page_id=212

http://faculty.gvsu.edu/websterm/SumerianMyth.htm

This is some of the stories translated from early Sumerian myths. Notice the similarities to several religions texts and stories.

Also who cares if they were lucifereans. You do realize that they have similar beliefs as the Greeks rather then people who believe is Satanism? There is nothing wrong with believing another groups beliefs and twisting them a bit. This is how many religious sects formed.

Which if I'm going to go discussing Satanism, I'd love to point out that the entire idea of Satan and the underworld was created by more-modern priests used originally as a scare tactic for the younger generation at that time to follow the teachings of the bible which later branched out as the belief that it is now.

 

Edit: After watching some of the videos from your first link I want to laugh. While yes, there is no way any of those things link up I laugh at the fact that there is an overall belief that Jesus was more than a normal human. Guess what? I have yet to see any real evidence that he was. From everything I've seen over the years is that he was a normal human whose skills were of a carpenter. When he thought he spoke to his "father" who would also be all of mankind's father, he went on a quest that spread a modified version of the Hebrew faith which him being the Messiah. His way of curing people was with purified/clean water probably from the northern most parts of the Roman empire. His death was also committed not by the emperor of Roman, but rather his followers since he didn't want to get his hands dirty because he himself wasn't sure what to believe or think other than Jesus might be a little batty at best. Tales of his resurrection that probably never happened and was no more than hallucinations on his followers part.

Also, you might be interested in knowing that Judas and Jesus might have had a discussion about Jesus's death. Jesus wanted to die and be next to his father. He wanted to leave his "shell" of his body and leave the place he didn't belong. Judas was also stoned to death afterwards even though he followed what Jesus wanted.



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SmoothCriminal said:

I actually left Christianity for a while. I just didn't feel a connection to God anymore. Then, about 2-3 months ago, I my family went through a pretty big crisis, my dad had a stroke. After that my dad seemed much more in tune with God than ever before. At first I thought that he was just excited about not dying, but then I began to feel a connection to God as well. Now I'm back as a devout Roman Catholic Christian.

 

As bad as his stroke was, it really brought my family closer together, and closer to God.

Sorry to hear about your father, but it's cool how that led your family to get closer to God. 



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Interesting how you believe that some are wired to be religious.  I believe I am wired to be religious.  I don't blame people who don't like church.   I've loved church as a little child and still love it week after week. 

I hope you will soon make that connection too.



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Well, I used to be pretty religious when I was little. Went to church fairly often, prayed in the morning and before I went to  bed and all that. I think most people (especially my mother)  thought that I'd become a priest when I grew up (though the ideea never really appealed to me even then).

As I grew older I started questioning my beliefs and came to the conclusion that I had no logical reason to believe any of it. I also disagreed with many Christian teachings. Even of God  were real he would have  no right to my life, nor anyone else's. I don't like dictators, and the Christian God seemed to me like nothing more or less than that. Forcing people worship him just because he created everybody and everything, sending those that refused to be his mindless sheep to hell. Of course this would be under the pressumption that he existed.

It's pretty hard to admit that something you thought was real and that was so important for so long is nothing more than nonsense, but 2 years ago (after I had a nervous breakdown), I decided to put my life in order and eliminate all the sources of stress that I could. Thus I ended my religious crisis.

Religion seemed to me like made-up answers to the questions regarding the mystery of the universe. I don't know the asnwers to those questions. Science will probably unravel the mysteries of the universe, but that certailnly ain't happening in my lifetime. Despite this I'm perfectly confortable living without knowind the asnswer to any of the big questions, nor do I desire any made-up ones. My existence may not have any purpose in particular, but that's OK 'cause I'll give it purpose myself.

The negative things that religious people have done, was ironically not a big reason for which I became an atheist. However disgusting acts done by these people (like the Romanian Orthodox Church's campaign against the decriminalisation of homosexuality) have made me despise them and the Christian religion in general.



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sapphi_snake said:

Well, I used to be pretty religious when I was little. Went to church fairly often, prayed in the morning and before I went to  bed and all that. I think most people (especially my mother)  thought that I'd become a priest when I grew up (though the ideea never really appealed to me even then).

As I grew older I started questioning my beliefs and came to the conclusion that I had no logical reason to believe any of it. I also disagreed with many Christian teachings. Even of God  were real he would have  no right to my life, nor anyone else's. I don't like dictators, and the Christian God seemed to me like nothing more or less than that. Forcing people worship him just because he created everybody and everything, sending those that refused to be his mindless sheep to hell. Of course this would be under the pressumption that he existed.

It's pretty hard to admit that something you thought was real and that was so important for so long is nothing more than nonsense, but 2 years ago (after I had a nervous breakdown), I decided to put my life in order and eliminate all the sources of stress that I could. Thus I ended my religious crisis.

Religion seemed to me like made-up answers to the questions regarding the mystery of the universe. I don't know the asnwers to those questions. Science will probably unravel the mysteries of the universe, but that certailnly ain't happening in my lifetime. Despite this I'm perfectly confortable living without knowind the asnswer to any of the big questions, nor do I desire any made-up ones. My existence may not have any purpose in particular, but that's OK 'cause I'll give it purpose myself.

The negative things that religious people have done, was ironically not a big reason for which I became an atheist. However disgusting acts done by these people (like the Romanian Orthodox Church's campaign against the decriminalisation of homosexuality) have made me despise them and the Christian religion in general.

I think most people, like Ann Rice quit Christianity due to Christian Churches.  Westboro Baptist for e.g.  I don't consider them a true representatives of Jesus and His teachings.



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True, but like I said that wasn't a significat factor for my leaving Christianity. Honestly I hadn't really noticed all those things up unil recently. They have, however, made me currently resent Christianity.



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"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

Because even as a young impressionable child I found a lot of the stories that were being told to me as though they were fact unbelievable. Such as...

 

  • All snakes being eternally punished because the devil inhabited the body of one once (talk about injustice).
  • A man who survived being eaten by a whale and survive. Not to mention the subsequent destruction the digestive system would cause and the sheer lack of oxygen.
  • A flood which covered the entire Earth, killing everything except for two/seven of every animal species, which all lived within walking distance of an old man who wanted to save them.

And some things like the entire book of Leviticus are just absurd. I think I realised quite early on that I wasn't a Christian.



highwaystar101 said:

Because even as a young impressionable child I found a lot of the stories that were being told to me as though they were fact unbelievable. Such as...

 

  • All snakes being eternally punished because the devil inhabited the body of one once (talk about injustice).
  • A man who survived being eaten by a whale and survive. Not to mention the subsequent destruction the digestive system would cause and the sheer lack of oxygen.
  • A flood which covered the entire Earth, killing everything except for two/seven of every animal species, which all lived within walking distance of an old man who wanted to save them.

And some things like the entire book of Leviticus are just absurd. I think I realised quite early on that I wasn't a Christian.

As a Christian I've learned that these stories are true.  Whether I believe it to be true events or not is not that important.  A rabbi told me that these stories can be allegorical.  The story (parable) doesn't necessarily have to be true.  They are told to make a point. 

As a Christian I don't believe that God created the world in 6 days e.g. , or snake tempting Adam and Eve is Satan himself.    

But I do believe that God created the world (science will show us how he did it), and that man are fallible.