Simming through the chat I believe it should be more of a question who quit catholoscism.

Because Christianity is the general belief of Christ and God. I beleive it's this whole western ideal propaganda that is ruininf its own religion. Only Roman Catholic priests are pedophile because they have to devout themselves to god (a rule which they made up). I think other than groups in America and UK most of the world stays devout because they evolved or stayed "orthodox" (right) the past few centuries. We never here any complaints about Mainland european religious leaders and apperently the eastern rite does end up  being the better "rite".

On a side note I'm still Greek CATHOLIC a small denomynation of some 10 million of people of different races world wide but I have refined my views a little and tried to understand the religion Im following, abondonding what you don't really know is a quitter way out. An interesting doc/interview I would reccomend is this 9hr peice called (if you google vid search it).

Interview with an ex-vampire

Hope you'll enjoy.

If I remember... there's micro and macro evolution... one of them isn't random at all... the other is based on random events. Your probably talking about the one that isn't. Anyways togther they both make of up evolution...and I think the more fundumental parts of evolution are based on random events. It isn't just about natural selection, it's also about a big bang and how all these substances got mixed because of huge number of random events we have ourselves a functional human being with impossible odds. Evolution is definitely based on random events.

No. The bing bang is not what I'm talking about, the big bang is not evolution.

Evolution is about random mutations, yes, but that leaves out natural selection which culls the random events that aren't beneficial. So no evolution via natural selection isn't completely random, part of it is, but these impossible odds seem far less impossible if you've got the mechanism that allows beneficial mutations to thrive. Which is natural selection.

Now in terms of the substances mixing and creating the first organism, that is called I believe abiogenisis and I don't know enough about it. But again, its NOT evolution. Evolution is what happens once self-replicating organisms exist. Its a different process and one science doesn't completely understand yet (as far as I know).

I think it'd be a disservice to your God to make him a God of the gaps. The fact that science can admit it doesn't know something doesn't mean it wont work it out and looking at its track record my moneys on science to come up with a most adequate answer (plus it'll cull the crap).

Ouch! You own father.

Were they supose to share that information? Good thing that during confession I'd leave out the parts about porn/sex. Never did trust those guys.

Well, I used to be pretty religious when I was little. Went to church fairly often, prayed in the morning and before I went to  bed and all that. I think most people (especially my mother)  thought that I'd become a priest when I grew up (though the ideea never really appealed to me even then).

As I grew older I started questioning my beliefs and came to the conclusion that I had no logical reason to believe any of it. I also disagreed with many Christian teachings. Even of God  were real he would have  no right to my life, nor anyone else's. I don't like dictators, and the Christian God seemed to me like nothing more or less than that. Forcing people worship him just because he created everybody and everything, sending those that refused to be his mindless sheep to hell. Of course this would be under the pressumption that he existed.

you have a pretty wrong picture of a God than.God does not forces you nor needs you to worship him. if he wanted or needed that, he would just make us all do that because he can. he gave you a power of free will, so that YOU can deside if you want to worship someone or not.