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irony, the OP is a Lolbetarian, an ideaology that thinks Racism is a-okay and wouldnt object to the return of slavery.



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NoddyHolder said:

irony, the OP is a Lolbetarian, an ideaology that thinks Racism is a-okay and wouldnt object to the return of slavery.

I don't know what the exact definition of libertarianism is. However, given that Liberty is in their name, I'm sure they'll object to slavery...



Akvod said:
NoddyHolder said:

irony, the OP is a Lolbetarian, an ideaology that thinks Racism is a-okay and wouldnt object to the return of slavery.

I don't know what the exact definition of libertarianism is. However, given that Liberty is in their name, I'm sure they'll object to slavery...


not to market slavery, or to market racism, they think the markets should run the world however they see fit



NoddyHolder said:
Akvod said:
NoddyHolder said:

irony, the OP is a Lolbetarian, an ideaology that thinks Racism is a-okay and wouldnt object to the return of slavery.

I don't know what the exact definition of libertarianism is. However, given that Liberty is in their name, I'm sure they'll object to slavery...


not to market slavery, or to market racism, they think the markets should run the world however they see fit

They believe in supply and demand of the entire market dictating production, and will be against demand that goes against the liberties of any individual.

I don't see what's wrong with supply and demand. Why produce something nobody demands? You can bring in concepts like externalities sure, but at least those people work WITH the supply and demand theory to maximize utility.



You're just a pawn of the US government. Only a state level law like Arizona could have passed. TheUS government depends on people coming here illegally for a variety of reasons, and dissenters like you are just as necessary.



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Topic starter's entire argument can be summed up in one word: stereotype.

While useful as a basic mechanism, it's really not recommended to apply them to individuals.



MARCUSDJACKSON said:
Kasz216 said:
mortono said:

I, for one, think we should start stepping up border security on Canada. Do you know how many Canadians are in our country illegally right now? But nobody cares about them because they are not brown and have a funny accent.

Border security and illegal immigration is only a problem in the states that border countries with brown people.

150,000  illegal aliens are Candaians are in the country right now.

Vs... about 5 million illegal mexicans.  Which just counts Mexico... not anywhere else in South America.

So... yeah.  It's got nothing to do with racism.

If the problem was huge in Canada... people in the north would be complaining for sure.

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illegal is illegal no matter how you slice it. Meicans and Cnadians are breaking the law no double standards aloud.


I agree completely.  They should all be deported.

The reason however that states boarding Canada don't care about immigration is because they problem is so small.  It's got nothing to do with race.  But location.

Switch the numbers around.  300,000 Mexicans and 5 million canadians.

You can bet your ass the northern states would be complaining about the Canadian problem, and the south wouldn't have anything to say about illegal mexicans.



mortono said:
Kasz216 said:
mortono said:
Kasz216 said:
mortono said:
Kasz216 said:
mortono said:

I, for one, think we should start stepping up border security on Canada. Do you know how many Canadians are in our country illegally right now? But nobody cares about them because they are not brown and have a funny accent.

Border security and illegal immigration is only a problem in the states that border countries with brown people.

150,000  illegal aliens are Candaians are in the country right now.

Vs... about 5 million illegal mexicans.  Which just counts Mexico... not anywhere else in South America.

So... yeah.  It's got nothing to do with racism.

If the problem was huge in Canada... people in the north would be complaining for sure.

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Nobody would care if there were five million illegal Canadians living in Montana. Because how could you tell? They are not brown. They speak english. They don't have awful stereotypes. They can blend in with a crowd and not be recognized as 'Canadian'.

This same thing is not true for illegal Mexicans. In Arizona, the conservatives wanted police to have the ability to stop anyone that they suspect might be illegal. How else are police going to do this without considering color and language? They wouldn't be able to do this same thing with Canadians in Montana and they wouldn't because nobody would care anyways.

This same thing is true for Russians in Northern California. There are millions of undocumented Russians here, and yet nobody really cares. They are white, so it's not a big deal. 

Mexicans, being brown, are automatically assumed by racist, rich, white conservatives to be lazy, dirty criminals that take all the low wage jobs and spend their days off stealing your fancy sports cars and rolex watches. This, of course, is not true. The fact is, most of the illegal mexicans are poor and barely able to sustain themselves in the first place. Plus they have rich, white, conservatives breathing down their back.

Leave these people alone. Instead of going after these poor people that can barley afford food, let's go after the rich, white, conservatives that run BP and ignored all the warning signs of that oil rig. Let's deport them! Let's go after these bank CEOs and Wall Street criminals that caused an economic disaster that now has 10 percent of people unemployed!

Er... that's an incriedibly racist statement you just made.   How could you tell if there were 5 million illegal canadians living in Montana?   You do know that HUGE numbers of LEGAL hispanic people live in the south west right?

It would be EASY to tell if there were 5 million canadians living in Montanta..  There would be 5 million more people there then should be there.   It would be VERY eaisly noticeable... and yes.  People would care.    Heck how do you think we can you know.... get the numbers of canadians illegal in the country

You are so amazingly off base it's sad... and just making up stuff to try and prove your own point.

 

"Millions of Russians" I mean... seriously?  Then why isn't it on the list?   Why is there only like... 300,000 including all other USSR countries?

Or more importantly... how do you know they are here illegally?  What if they are just legal russians with an accent.  Would seem to be the case, what with only around 300,000 illegal immigrants in the country from all the USSR states.

Seems like you've done a bit of ethnic profiling.  Bad accent... must be illegal.

Who's the racist? 

You've even mentioned a bunch of reasons why we SHOULD be harder on Illegal immigration.

Don't call me a racist. You are the one who wants to deport all of the illegal brown people. I, on the other hand, think we should treat all illegal immigrants of all races the exact same way: with tolerance. If they want to live here so bad, then let them. There's no need to spend tons of taxpayer money so Uncle Sam can have the equivalent of a night club bouncer. 

Also, I realize the way you want to speak to me is with condescending bigotry. It is not a method that convinces anyone of your argument. It's just one that spreads your hatred of me for trying to defend other races. If you want to convince me of something, do it with respect and not with condescending language. Otherwise I will just assume that you are a racist and bigot that simply wants to spread his overflowing hatred on the internet.

All you've done in this thread is call everyone who disagreed with you racists and give blatantly false information. (As in, proveably false, as has been proven false based on the immigration estimates.)

How else exactly do you expect to be treated?

When you stop trying to have arguements with strawman and actually provide accurate information... maybe you'll be treated better.   But when you act like a troll.  Expect to be treated as such.

You are free to assume whatever you want.  Though based on your debate style of blazing in throwing up strawmen insulting everyone and then being offended when people don't respect you...

It'd likely be only because you aren't actually capable of argueing the subject and it's easier to make assumptions rather then actually looking at any facts or trying to have a real defense for why people should be allowed to break the law.

You seem to be the only person responding to me, and in a very condescending way at that. I never meant to "troll" or "insult" anyone. My post was simply stating my opinion on the matter and not attacking anyone personally. You, however, have attacked me personally and are not sticking to the discussion at hand. If you want to convince me, you might want to stick to the issue instead of just calling me names and accusing me of racism.

I never called you a racist, however you specifically called me a racist in your last message. You accuse many people of racism with the thread title "If you think illegals are good people you are a racist". How is this a rational argument? Here I am defending illegal immigrants that are Mexican and you are calling me a racist. How does that make sense?

You have continued using condescending language trying to put down the original argument that I made, which was, that illegal mexican immigrants should be treated the same as any other illegal immigrant.

My original post was that illegal immigration is only a real problem with southwestern conservative states that border Mexico, and you never see this as an issue in states that border Canada. That is simply common sense. My conclusion is that southwestern states are more intolerant of illegal Mexicans than northern states are of Canadians. So you can keep calling me a racist for that, I guess.

The response to me linked to some information that showed all the apparent illegal immigrants and their respective countries. My response was that, while there are not as many illegal immigrants from Canada or Russia as there are from Latin America, that if there were it would not be as much of an issue because these races are better tolerated. So again, if that makes me a racist, then put the shackles on me and take me to racist jail.

My arguments were opinions of course, and not fact. I don't assume to know what would happen if millions of immigrants started suddenly coming into the country from European countries. But my opinion, based on the intolerance in this country of people with color, is that people who were white and spoke English would be tolerated.

So, in any case, that was the point that I was making. And then you went off into "call everybody a racist and a troll" land. I never once attacked anyone in this topic for anything in my original post. I only expressed my opinion and was then attacked by you when you started flinging around the R word.


Your argueing fact with opinion... and you made a racist statement assuming russians were illegal immigrants... and made up numbers.  Not sure what you want.

You didn't actually read the OP.  Which was that Mexicans are just like White people, and other racists.

Here's a fun hint.  Mafoo isn't even white.  He's like arab or something.

People who come here illegally have to be willing to break the law.  Therefore are going to be less lawabiding then the regular mexican.

How is that not true?

Also, look at your own first post again.  You said anyone who cares about illegal immigration is a racist.


As for not caring about white people immigration.   I'd say look to Europe.  Wherever there has been massive white people immigration there has been in fact... massive complaining.  Often legal immigration at that.

The UK's main problem seems to be with eastern europeons.  Look at anywhere where two groups of white people are combined they complain about one group.  

For example, I believe it's Belgium... they have a HUGE problem with the french half of their country that came from france etc.

 

You are just plain out wrong.  You want to hold that opinion soley because then you don't have to consider the very real fact that you may be wrong.



Akvod said:

Meh, how about we just agree to the nurture argument, or if not that, agree that our nature is the same (the human nature).


ok. i'll fall in with this.



Kasz216 said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
Kasz216 said:
mortono said:

I, for one, think we should start stepping up border security on Canada. Do you know how many Canadians are in our country illegally right now? But nobody cares about them because they are not brown and have a funny accent.

Border security and illegal immigration is only a problem in the states that border countries with brown people.

150,000  illegal aliens are Candaians are in the country right now.

Vs... about 5 million illegal mexicans.  Which just counts Mexico... not anywhere else in South America.

So... yeah.  It's got nothing to do with racism.

If the problem was huge in Canada... people in the north would be complaining for sure.

http://www.fairus.org/images/content/pagebuilder/68609.jpg



illegal is illegal no matter how you slice it. Meicans and Cnadians are breaking the law no double standards aloud.


I agree completely.  They should all be deported.

The reason however that states boarding Canada don't care about immigration is because they problem is so small.  It's got nothing to do with race.  But location.

Switch the numbers around.  300,000 Mexicans and 5 million canadians.

You can bet your ass the northern states would be complaining about the Canadian problem, and the south wouldn't have anything to say about illegal mexicans.


agreed