HappySqurriel said:
| richardhutnik said:
The military happens to train people, work on character issues, and give individuals who enlist a reason for being. Individuals in the welfare system are warehoused and treated as a problem, and meant to get them off the streets. They are handled to address tax payer shame, rather than made productive. The welfare system doesn't do anything to promote independence.
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That's kind of my point ...
Social programs provided by the government to help poor people do nothing but re-enforce poverty. They attempt to solve the symptoms (low employability and low income) rather than the problems (low education, poor skills, lack of work experience, "Character" issues, substance abuse, etc.). In many cases the aid the government gives enables a person’s problems to get worse.
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That approach is what society develops when it doesn't freel decide to tackle these issues without government involvement. The government will get involved and force people into a hopeless situation that would even put them at risk of losing benefits if they try to be proactive. I have seen cases where one program capped the amount of hours people worked, because it would cost them benefits.
The system will drive people to the bottom. In my case, when my unemployment ran out, I had the option of applying to go on welfare and lose my car (couldn't afford to keep the insurance) and phone and internet (to job hunt), or move back with family, in a verbally abusive household. I picked the later, eventhough the verbal abuse doesn't help with depression, that I had to deal with. Of course, my story generated flak by some, to the extent that someone posted on a blog that I should kill myself and not use his tax dollars. This was in light of like no work being available, not even at Wendy's. And either I list my college on my resume (a Masters) and my time at IBM, or I end up with a gap.
Corporations would likewise do similar also in regards to trying to provide solutions. The issue is size more than anything else.