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so we still talking about how this ms exec is being an unprofessional douchebag? he isn't even being funny about it which would have made it a bit tolerable or even enjoyable PR trash talk



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BMaker11 said:
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Seece said:
chocoloco said:
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BBH said:

'Sony have to pull something out of the cupboard quickly'

- Well MS did this exact thing with their actual console.


Well Sony just blatantly ripped off the WIi.

MS actually created an original console. Unfortunately they used shit hardware that failed often. But Sony's quality hardware didn't benefit them financially (and they still have a pretty high failrate).

Both HD consoles have been a disaster.

If you think they are a disaster you must live in a sad world were everything is negative. Its like saying that the N64, Gamecube, and every console made by Sega was a complete failure because of the lack of sales.

Sega, I don't know much about, but Nintendo have always made a profit on their consoles.

360 and PS3 have been money pits, PS3 moreso losing over $5 billion , 360 losing $1.5 billion including the RROD losses.


Edit - Yeah anyway what I meant is, I can see how both are seen as a disaster, because of the billions they've lost, which at the end of the day, however great the console and games, losing that much is awful.


This would be fine if that was made clear that he was talking about profit. A financial disaster they certainly are. I am just sick of Nintento only fans using that as an excuse to say they have no value. I think the PS3/360 together currently have more fans than Nintendo.


Ofcourse I mean profit. The game industry is a business. You think this is just an expensive hobby for MS and Sony?

 

I know we should want them to make money, because like you said, they are businesses and without money, they would go under. But even if Sony or Microsoft exited the gaming industry, someone..ANYONE would pick up the slack and give us similar experiences. So I think that's a moot point.


If two massive well funded companies can't turn a profit in this industry who do you see trying? With out profit there will be no incentive for anyone to make games, people do not work for free. You are delusional if you think we will get the kind of games and deals we are getting now if sony and ms can't turn their ventures into profit. While I agree its not always all about massive profit, there has to be some. No one will invest in what they see as a sinking ship.



Seece said:

http://news.spong.com/article/21876/Dutch-Microsoft-Exec-Sony-Doesnt-Give-a-Sh*t-About-Move?d=201007161340

A podcast on Dutch site Bashers sent to us by a reader shows that Paul Naber, Director Home & Entertainment Division at Microsoft Netherlands does not have a high opinion of Sony's support of Move.

During the interview, Naber says, "I'm convinced that Move for Sony is, what we call, fudding. Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt. They don't give a shit about Move, but it takes the wind out of Kinects sails, or it could."

Bearing in mind that Mr Naber had previously worked as Sales Manager at PlayStation, his answers bear some weight.

Interviewer, Samuel Hubner Casado apparently then asks, "What Microsoft did with HDDVD?"

To which Naber apparently responds, "Voila! Exactly the same as we did with HDDVD and Blu-Ray. When people are unsure of a new technology, they won't get on board. And that doesn't bother them as far as Move is concerned, because they don't care about it anyway. But if people get on board with Kinect and it's a runaway success, then they'll have Wii on one side, Kinect on the other and of course they will lose."

Naber then continues "Simple, I mean, I still think their response, last year, was "Oh sh*t, Microsoft is onto something, we have to pull something out of the cupboard quickly, let's get developers up there with even stranger lollipops! But if you look at how far along they are, what kind of support they have and things like that... They're launching in September with how many titles? I think it's too vague for words."

Before finishing off with, "Yes, I do worry about it because Sony is very -- I've worked there for five years! I know what they do! Dropping the price even though there's no stock, why? Because you know your competitor will stop selling. They are really good at that, at Fudding."

Mr Naber then follows up his podcast comments with written comments to the podcast as follows:

"The future will tell if Sony is serious about Move or that they really use as FUD. To date, the retailers in NL enormously to talk about our strategic approach Kinect around and they're, like, surprised at the complete lack of any story whatsoever from Sony about Move. They have a folder containing five titles and a release date and thats (sic) it."

Realising he may have caused some problems, he does point out that, "Everything I said I said out of personal conviction and not as Xbox boss. My PR lady kill me when she hears what I have said."

Harsh stuff.

"Bearing in mind that Mr Naber had previously worked as Sales Manager at PlayStation, his answers bear some weight."


Sales Manager PlayStation

(Computer Games industry)

May 1996 — September 2000 (4 years 5 months)

so paul who has not been there since 2000 is credible in his weight on what goes on at Sony right now...lol

http://nl.linkedin.com/pub/paul-naber/5/90A/24

now that Mr. Naber has been working at microsoft since 2002 , it's safe to say he's trying to take the wind out of the sail's out of the Playstation Move as much as he can before Kinect Launch...FUD is used not only by sony but also Microsoft as this very interview show's good job Mr. Naber

LOL





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