BMaker11 said:
Mr Puggsly said:
chocoloco said:
Seece said:
chocoloco said:
Mr Puggsly said:
BBH said:
'Sony have to pull something out of the cupboard quickly'
- Well MS did this exact thing with their actual console.
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Well Sony just blatantly ripped off the WIi.
MS actually created an original console. Unfortunately they used shit hardware that failed often. But Sony's quality hardware didn't benefit them financially (and they still have a pretty high failrate).
Both HD consoles have been a disaster.
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If you think they are a disaster you must live in a sad world were everything is negative. Its like saying that the N64, Gamecube, and every console made by Sega was a complete failure because of the lack of sales.
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Sega, I don't know much about, but Nintendo have always made a profit on their consoles.
360 and PS3 have been money pits, PS3 moreso losing over $5 billion , 360 losing $1.5 billion including the RROD losses.
Edit - Yeah anyway what I meant is, I can see how both are seen as a disaster, because of the billions they've lost, which at the end of the day, however great the console and games, losing that much is awful.
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This would be fine if that was made clear that he was talking about profit. A financial disaster they certainly are. I am just sick of Nintento only fans using that as an excuse to say they have no value. I think the PS3/360 together currently have more fans than Nintendo.
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Ofcourse I mean profit. The game industry is a business. You think this is just an expensive hobby for MS and Sony?
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I know we should want them to make money, because like you said, they are businesses and without money, they would go under. But even if Sony or Microsoft exited the gaming industry, someone..ANYONE would pick up the slack and give us similar experiences. So I think that's a moot point.
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If two massive well funded companies can't turn a profit in this industry who do you see trying? With out profit there will be no incentive for anyone to make games, people do not work for free. You are delusional if you think we will get the kind of games and deals we are getting now if sony and ms can't turn their ventures into profit. While I agree its not always all about massive profit, there has to be some. No one will invest in what they see as a sinking ship.
