Wii sports and Wii fit was what sold Wii.(just like DVD player sold Ps2) Once the Wii got through the front door then the  core N games like MK wii sold in huge numbers. MK Wii wouldn't sold as many if it wasn't for Wii Sport the begin with.

There's just a few spelling, and grammer issues (nazi I know). But It's a good read I like your opinion. I'm of the opinion these ADD-ON's are going to have a tough time because it's going to be a while before developer's see them as anything more.

.....Think about the biggest games coming out for those system end of year & the start of next.  By these devices being ADD-ON's major support in the being will be minimal. I truly believe that these ADD-ON's are more of a counterstrike to NIntendo's eventual attack on Sony & Microsoft's core stumping grounds, as evident by the 3DS, as the first torpedo.

I really believe that Nintendo's Reverse Core strategy as I call it was the best one.

-@ bolded. Kudos for clarifying. But dont you think its better to experience it first than make bold statements like that.

-"There is a ton of variety as you can play a game multiple times and get completely different results"
I dont get this part. So by variety you mean every time you play, you always get a different result. That is just silly. As 90%  of the time on any game whether casual or linear etc, you will likely always get a different result each time when you play the game multiple times.

@ Bolded: I truly believe that this is the direction that Zelda: Skyward Sword is going to take. It's will be interesting to see how traditional Zelda fans will take to this.

That's "grammar" with an "a" by the way.
Also "There's" should be replaced by "There are".
Not sure about the apostrophy in "ADD-ON's" as there are no missing letters, nor is it used in a possessive sense, but they are tricky so i'm not sure.

of course I don't follow grammar and spelling rules myself on a forum, not much point. I just make myself as clear as possible usually typing in a similar style to how I am thinking... often with too many elipses...

this is a very strange thread

Wii fit, wii sports, wii sports resort, mario kart wii and wii play so those that you mentioned, 5/7 are motion controlled games, (you can prob incl wii fit plus as well)

The wii fit board couldnt be done on a non motion controlled system

mario kart wii's advertisement is showing that you can move the wheel to go left or right

wii sports, wii sports resort and wii play are obvious...

So as you stated most don't... in fact most do... think MS knows what they are doing

Hell, we could go even further! In his first paragraph alone, there several grammatical errors (in order, underlined):

• There is no ambiguity here, hence an oxford comma is not needed.
• Comma is needed - "Nazi, I know"
• Comma/semi-colon is needed - "But it's a good read; I like your opinion."
• You covered this one
• This is not a plural possessive, plural would be fine here - "developers"

But let's not berate the guy here

I thought the whole point of Kinect and the Wiimote both combined as the one concept was to reduce the barriers to entry. The fact that they are similar to games already on the Wii just means that they are they obvious first step games for any next generation control interface to tackle first. They are damned if they do and damned if they don't. If they don't they'll get complaints about how they didn't make the obvious games and if they do they'll get complaints you've raised here.

I see too many people here willing to write things off before they even get a chance to prove themselves. Obviously Kinect and Move will both have their moments in the spotlight and we have a good lead on overall sales here so we ought to be able to tell in very short order if they have flopped or if they are indeed flourishing. People forget that games like the Wii Sports tennis aren't popular because people generally like tennis games but they are popular because they represent a completely new way of playing a tennis game. None of the tennis games afterwards really matched the success of Wii Sports tennis because they lack the value of being a new and unique experience.

Sure, Kinect offers a new way to do the same thing. The idea of which is to reduce the barriers to participation (is this not a good thing?) whilst not trying to duplicate the old methods which involve a physical controller. It offers an even simpler way to jump in and out of multiplayer by placing yourself in the right position to play games. Beyond that it offers a pretty good mic for Live players, a video camera for video calling and a cool hands free media interface which compliments the fact that you can get your content on demand without even leaving the couch.

Microsoft certainly has the "casual" aspect down pat. As far as depth and gameplay, we'll just have to see. The games may still have it, but if they don't, MS is capable of learning from their mistakes.

I think Microsoft has accomplished what they wanted with Kinect so far.  They are trying to target a market the 360 has had very little success with it...and it looks like they have at least caught the interest of the casual gamers and the mainstream media.  It's now up to Microsoft to complete the sale.

Games don't need to be a deep or complex experience to be enjoyable.  When playing games in a group or party setting (Which Kinect is definitely targeting), your not going to be playing the game personally for hours on end...unless you're a system hog and don't like to share lol.  So you don't need a super deep experience.  Just something that is going to be fun to play with others. 

This has been Nintendo's main strength for quite some time.  A lot of gamers rag on Mario Kart, Mario Party and the Mario Sports games.  As single player experiences the games are good but not great.  But when you put a room full of people playing against one another they are an absolute blast. They really aren't deep or complex games, but they just work.  And a little Mario charm can go along way.

The early Kinect games may not be mind blowing experiences.  But that doesn't mean they won't be fun.  It will take time for developers to think outside the box and create a different experience.  Whether they will is a different story.