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NoddyHolder said:
dahuman said:
NoddyHolder said:
dahuman said:
NoddyHolder said:
dahuman said:
NoddyHolder said:
dahuman said:
NoddyHolder said:
dahuman said:
NoddyHolder said:

wait, he is leaving his country because people like equality? thats crazy...what kind of awful nation doesnt like having more equality?


If you are down for socialism or communisim, sure, personally though, I work hard for my money and I have no problems paying my taxes, the problem is the people without hope or are simply lazy, I don't believe in unluckiness past certain percentage. I'd definitely pick the 60-100 and not 40-45.


you think people on low incomes dont work hard? tells me all I need to know about capitalists then doesnt it?

they are not fecking lazy, your lazy for calling them lazy though.

I would rather live in a nation where people all have a good standard of living, than one where some people live in luxury whilst others are left to rot on the streets, if that makes you neo-liberal peeps hate me, then so be it.

I worked at an ice cream store when I was in High School(another job with the school district doing computing, yeah I had 2 fucking jobs even back in high school, I started working at 14) if I was still working at an ice cream store now, I'd fucking slap myself 10 ways til sun down. To this day, I don't know what those 30ish year olds were doing working there who were not even managers, fuckers were either too stupid or just fucking lazy asses who didn't want to bother with school, or dumb asses that had a kid too early without using a brain, lazy about life is the worst laziness there can be.

again, this seems to be more to do with arrogance and an attitude problem on your part than any failing of others, everyone has different lifes and different problems, you are in no position to judge them for it.


If this was 10-15 years ago, I might just feel the same way that you do, but now, the only thing I'll say is come back in 15 years and tell me that same bullshit, I'll be waiting.

what a load of nonsensical bs, my mam is 46 and she has very similar views to mine, so there goes your "theory"


So you are happy being the same way and have no thought of your own? time to get the hell out of that nest.


so im not allowed to agree with my mam now? great...more judgement from someone who knows nothing about me...

your original posts were saying that everybody should be about the same and that's ideal because there are people who are simply not good enough, humans are not that stupid if they bother to broaden their horrizon, how much do you even get out?

I get out plenty thank you.

I wonder if you really understand what I mean about getting out, N/M, not like you are my kid, your life is your own. I'ma just stop. This is a gaming and sales forum lol. ^^b



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dahuman said:
NoddyHolder said:

I get out plenty thank you.

I wonder if you really understand what I mean about getting out, N/M, not like you are my kid, your life is your own. I'ma just stop. This is a gaming and sales forum lol. ^^b


you do know thats what ive been saying? peoples lives are there own, so you should just stop judging them.



TheRealMafoo said:
NoddyHolder said:
TheRealMafoo said:

Dude, read my post. I said I am "no better then anyone else", meaning I think anyone who applies themselves can achieve what I did. How is that an Ego?

you think because you can do something that everyone can, which is dross.

you think you have the "right" to judge them for that, again, dross.

how is that not ego?

Ego is when you think you have accomplished something because you have some quality others don't have. That somehow your better then the next guy.

What I have, is pride. I am proud to have gotten where I am, because I worked hard for it with no inherent advantages.

We all have ego at certain areas, the parts where we don't have it, we make it up with hard work, and then everything goes into pride, which is an awsome feeling if you ask me, as long as we don't show that pride and turn it into confidence lol.



NoddyHolder said:
mrstickball said:

...Why is a 20 year old trying to correct a 30-something about work ethic?

Has the world got that bad? Really?

And FYI, Noddy, most of the poor people I know (and I know a lot of them) are that way because they are indeed lazy or stupid. No one wants to be poor - you are right about that - but not every one wants to take the steps needed to get out of it. I have friends that are in poverty, and could easily get out of it, but demand to spend $20-$30 on take-out dinners 2, 3 and even 4 times a week. I know others that drink and smoke, then complain about not having money. I could go on and on about the poor people I know, but in 80-90% of situations, they are self-inflicted.


yes, because clearly being younger always means my opinion is wrong...*facepalm*

maybe its just you being overly judgemental, its not just that you wont see them ALL the time, so cant judge like that, but you can also add to that, that many of the things you say they do, OUR CAPITALIST SOCIETY tells them to do...


Its not that you’re young, its that you lack experience ...

Like many people, I started out my post-secondary education at what would be considered a community college if I was in the United States and after two years I transferred to the University. I worked the entire time I was in school and went to school full time. The only reason Universities have spots for people to transfer in after a year or two is because of how many students, who are smart enough and have the capacity to pay for it, fail out of school; and the main reason these students fail is that they’re not mature enough and focus on the elements of school life beyond academics.

The older you get the more you will see people who have the ability and means to take advantage of a great opportunity that fail to take advantage of it because they’re too focused on other elements of life. In many ways there is a certain amount of fairness in the trade that is made because many successful people wish they spent more time when they were young "Chasing girls" or "Having fun" while may unsuccessful people wished they buckled down more; suggesting that the person who got the reward of having fun when they're young should share in the rewards of those that were disciplined seems remarkably unfair.



I wont do these things you say I will, you know why?

im not an arrogant, judgmental ass.



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I have one now...I work in a corner shop behind the counter...3 days a week, 6 hours a day...pay is decent enough, I work hard too.

been working for about 2 months there 3 days a week, weekend job at the same shop for about a year before that.

I have friends on benefits, I have no issue with them doing so, they arent in work for whatever reasons, its not my place to judge, and they are all good people.

Not sure this shop applies, but humor me...

Now let's say you want to better yourself at that store, so you work harder, or take the less desirable shifts so the boss notices you. In a few years, you make assistant manager. The job pays for shit and is a ton of responsibility, but you take it because you know it's the only way to be manager some day. You work every night, and close up. Then the manager moves on, and because you were the best assistant manager, you get the manager job. Now your doing the book, hiring people, firing people, making shift schedules, making sure the supplies are always on time.

You work incredibly hard because you want that regional manager job. After 10 years of busting your hump more then the next guy, you are now regional manager, making 120k a year.

But you only get to keep some of that. 4 months out of your life, you get to work so you can give all your efforts to someone who doesn't work. All those people who you worked harder then, get to not pay taxes, Instead, you pay it for them, and the guy who has been working the same job at the counter for the last 10 years, gets part of his monthly spending money off government assistance that you have to pay for.

I think the reason you feel the way you do, is because while you have friends on assistance, you don't pay for it. As you get older, you will realize that to get ahead, takes work. Once you have done that work, you will feel different about people taking it from you to give to those people who just chose to go home and watch TV, and not not close every night.



TheRealMafoo said:
NoddyHolder said:


I have one now...I work in a corner shop behind the counter...3 days a week, 6 hours a day...pay is decent enough, I work hard too.

been working for about 2 months there 3 days a week, weekend job at the same shop for about a year before that.

I have friends on benefits, I have no issue with them doing so, they arent in work for whatever reasons, its not my place to judge, and they are all good people.

Not sure this shop applies, but humor me...

Now let's say you want to better yourself at that store, so you work harder, or take the less desirable shifts so the boss notices you. In a few years, you make assistant manager. The job pays for shit and is a ton of responsibility, but you take it because you know it's the only way to be manager some day. You work every night, and close up. Then the manager moves on, and because you were the best assistant manager, you get the manager job. Now your doing the book, hiring people, firing people, making shift schedules, making sure the supplies are always on time.

You work incredibly hard because you want that regional manager job. After 10 years of busting your hump more then the next guy, you are now regional manager, making 120k a year.

But you only get to keep some of that. 4 months out of your life, you get to work so you can give all your efforts to someone who doesn't work. All those people who you worked harder then, get to not pay taxes, Instead, you pay it for them, and the guy who has been working the same job at the counter for the last 10 years, gets part of his monthly spending money off government assistance that you have to pay for.

I think the reason you feel the way you do, is because while you have friends on assistance, you don't pay for it. As you get older, you will realize that to get ahead, takes work. Once you have done that work, you will feel different about people taking it from you to give to those people who just chose to go home and watch TV, and not not close every night.

I would be paying my fair share to help society as a whole to be better, so I would have no issue paying taxes, heck on 120k a year? I would happily pay 70k a year in tax, 50k would be a fantastic amount of money to earn in a year after tax even, its twice what my mam earns.



NoddyHolder said:
dahuman said:
NoddyHolder said:

I get out plenty thank you.

I wonder if you really understand what I mean about getting out, N/M, not like you are my kid, your life is your own. I'ma just stop. This is a gaming and sales forum lol. ^^b


you do know thats what ive been saying? peoples lives are there own, so you should just stop judging them.


Judge is the wrong word to use, the smart thing is usually to intake information and advice then filter it whenever you can. If everything somebody says is judging, then everybody should just shut the fuck up and you should stop posting in these forums. =P The fact is that lazy about life is the worst possible laziness, and it's everywhere, people are capable, but if they can't make that right decision or take in that good advice, then they are bound to suffer and they deserve it.



NoddyHolder said:
TheRealMafoo said:
NoddyHolder said:


I have one now...I work in a corner shop behind the counter...3 days a week, 6 hours a day...pay is decent enough, I work hard too.

been working for about 2 months there 3 days a week, weekend job at the same shop for about a year before that.

I have friends on benefits, I have no issue with them doing so, they arent in work for whatever reasons, its not my place to judge, and they are all good people.

Not sure this shop applies, but humor me...

Now let's say you want to better yourself at that store, so you work harder, or take the less desirable shifts so the boss notices you. In a few years, you make assistant manager. The job pays for shit and is a ton of responsibility, but you take it because you know it's the only way to be manager some day. You work every night, and close up. Then the manager moves on, and because you were the best assistant manager, you get the manager job. Now your doing the book, hiring people, firing people, making shift schedules, making sure the supplies are always on time.

You work incredibly hard because you want that regional manager job. After 10 years of busting your hump more then the next guy, you are now regional manager, making 120k a year.

But you only get to keep some of that. 4 months out of your life, you get to work so you can give all your efforts to someone who doesn't work. All those people who you worked harder then, get to not pay taxes, Instead, you pay it for them, and the guy who has been working the same job at the counter for the last 10 years, gets part of his monthly spending money off government assistance that you have to pay for.

I think the reason you feel the way you do, is because while you have friends on assistance, you don't pay for it. As you get older, you will realize that to get ahead, takes work. Once you have done that work, you will feel different about people taking it from you to give to those people who just chose to go home and watch TV, and not not close every night.

I would be paying my fair share to help society as a whole to be better, so I would have no issue paying taxes, heck on 120k a year? I would happily pay 70k a year in tax, 50k would be a fantastic amount of money to earn in a year after tax even, its twice what my mam earns.


uh, retirement is only going to get more and more harsh the newer the generation atm, I hope you are thinking really far ahead instead of looking at your own ideals, there are a lot of factors you need to consider these days espeically for somebody your age right now, and you need to leave your mom out of this, use the world as a base, not your mother, would be a pretty good start. again, just friendly advices, hope I'm not once again judging the hell out of your family rofl.



Remember, judgment is something you do to someone when it doesn't effect you.

When money is being taken out of your check for someone else, its not judgment. Its stewardship of the income you earn. Someone else (the government) takes a part of your money. If you feel that they are using it unwisely, you can discuss, debate, and argue what to do with it. Remember, its your money.

Its no different if you gave your wife some money after she took it from you, and she spent it very poorly...Wouldn't you want to discuss it with her? Or is it 'not your place to judge', despite her demanding it?



Back from the dead, I'm afraid.