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Farmageddon said:
Pyro as Bill said:
FootballFan said:
Kantor said:
FootballFan said:

False. My school being a Church Of England school has a right to reserve 51% of the places for Christians.

51%. Thus, up to half of the school can be non-Christian.

Yeah....just reading over what I put, it would have been better for me to say: Being a Christian it virtually guarentees me a place.

Wrong again. It's non-Christians that are virtually guaranteed a place.

Lets say your school holds 100 people. 75 Christians want to go there but 49 Muslims and Jews want to go there too.

The school has to let all the Muslims and Jews go there and only 51/75 Christians get the chance.

 

......and no you don't get any official documentation for baptism/christenings. Maybe a few nice photos and a card from the priest.


If I got this right, it's not that only 51% of the students can be christian, but rather that 51% of the places are reserved for christians. So if there's some kind of selection for the places, everyone applys for that 495 that's not reserved but the christians can also run for those other 51%. At least that's how it works here on universities we're we have a reserve of places for poor and/or indian/black people.

There is almost no chance you've got that right.

Even if you did.... 71% of the country is Christian.

If there was less then 51% of christians in there they'd be MASSIVLY underrepresented.



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Kasz216 said:
Farmageddon said:
Pyro as Bill said:

Wrong again. It's non-Christians that are virtually guaranteed a place.

Lets say your school holds 100 people. 75 Christians want to go there but 49 Muslims and Jews want to go there too.

The school has to let all the Muslims and Jews go there and only 51/75 Christians get the chance.

 

......and no you don't get any official documentation for baptism/christenings. Maybe a few nice photos and a card from the priest.


If I got this right, it's not that only 51% of the students can be christian, but rather that 51% of the places are reserved for christians. So if there's some kind of selection for the places, everyone applys for that 495 that's not reserved but the christians can also run for those other 51%. At least that's how it works here on universities we're we have a reserve of places for poor and/or indian/black people.

There is almost no chance you've got that right.

Even if you did.... 71% of the country is Christian.

If there was less then 51% of christians in there they'd be MASSIVLY underrepresented.

I don't think that would make much sense. I mean, if 71% of people are Christians, and assuming they are randomly spread and the desire to get into each school is randomly spread, 71% of applications would be from Christians and 29% from outside. Your reasoning means it would be MUCH easier for a non-christian to get in there. Which makes little sense, seeing as they have a right to reserve for christians. Besides, if 49% of people there were non-christians, I think the guy who studies there would know and wouldn't imply it works differently from the way you're supposing it does, don't you think?

Also, on Universities with "quotas", saying x% is reserved for y group means what I said earlier, so I think it's just natural for them to use the same terminology.



Farmageddon said:
Kasz216 said:
Farmageddon said:
Pyro as Bill said:

Wrong again. It's non-Christians that are virtually guaranteed a place.

Lets say your school holds 100 people. 75 Christians want to go there but 49 Muslims and Jews want to go there too.

The school has to let all the Muslims and Jews go there and only 51/75 Christians get the chance.

 

......and no you don't get any official documentation for baptism/christenings. Maybe a few nice photos and a card from the priest.


If I got this right, it's not that only 51% of the students can be christian, but rather that 51% of the places are reserved for christians. So if there's some kind of selection for the places, everyone applys for that 495 that's not reserved but the christians can also run for those other 51%. At least that's how it works here on universities we're we have a reserve of places for poor and/or indian/black people.

There is almost no chance you've got that right.

Even if you did.... 71% of the country is Christian.

If there was less then 51% of christians in there they'd be MASSIVLY underrepresented.

I don't think that would make much sense. I mean, if 71% of people are Christians, and assuming they are randomly spread and the desire to get into each school is randomly spread, 71% of applications would be from Christians and 29% from outside. Your reasoning means it would be MUCH easier for a non-christian to get in there. Which makes little sense, seeing as they have a right to reserve for christians. Besides, if 49% of people there were non-christians, I think the guy who studies there would know and wouldn't imply it works differently from the way you're supposing it does, don't you think?

Also, on Universities with "quotas", saying x% is reserved for y group means what I said earlier, so I think it's just natural for them to use the same terminology

Except... your ignoring the fact that there very well may be quotas for other religions too.

Also, that you have no actual proof of said quotas.



Also, I imagine there are a lot more atheists in Cleveland tonight.

Or maybe a lot more people who believe in a Sports god who just hates Cleveland... cause the law of averages has to break sometime.



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This has been known for at least six months I can't remember who puplished the findings, but  the unreligous are certainly rising here. I am definantly among them.



Kasz216 said:
Farmageddon said:

I don't think that would make much sense. I mean, if 71% of people are Christians, and assuming they are randomly spread and the desire to get into each school is randomly spread, 71% of applications would be from Christians and 29% from outside. Your reasoning means it would be MUCH easier for a non-christian to get in there. Which makes little sense, seeing as they have a right to reserve for christians. Besides, if 49% of people there were non-christians, I think the guy who studies there would know and wouldn't imply it works differently from the way you're supposing it does, don't you think?

Also, on Universities with "quotas", saying x% is reserved for y group means what I said earlier, so I think it's just natural for them to use the same terminology

Except... your ignoring the fact that there very well may be quotas for other religions too.

Also, that you have no actual proof of said quotas.

I'm not sure I get what you mean by the bolded part, but I never said I had actual proof for anything anyway. And you don't have either :P

I was just talking about quotas to illustrate how it works in other circunstances.

And even if they actually had a "non-christian quota", 49% would be just ridiculous on a 29% non-christian place. Moreover, when you have quotas, you have a reserved percentage only a given group can apply to, but said group also runs for the "universal" part of the applications, so they can actually go over their "49%" but never (unless there's simply not enough of them, which is hard when there's any considerable competition) less than those "49%".

But a non-christian quota makes little sense unless non-christians there actually have much lower living standards for some reason.

Anwyay, I really think he'd know if half his classmates were not christians.



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leatherhat said:

Being atheist is so edgy, all the cool kids are doing it

Where is live all the "cool" kids go to church every sunday.



FootballFan said:
 

Erm. There must be something... As I am a "Christian" is allows me to go to the school I am at.

FootballFan said:

Where is live all the "cool" kids go to church every sunday.

No disrespect man, but if that's the kind of grammar they teach you at that school, maybe you should change schools.



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