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dsister said:
ssj12 said:

why didnt they put in one way windows


That would probably have been much, much more expensive


yet would have eliminated all controversy



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Lol, now imagine what will happen when the radical Muslims become a majority.



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Doobie_wop said:
lightbleeder said:
hasanwhy said:

Geez, as an American Muslim, I've heard these kinds of stories a hundred times over. I'm sick and tired of people trying to oppose their views onto others and vice-versa. I've come to the conclusion that neither party is right in these kinds of situations. Call me out for taking the neutral approach, but I'm just sick and tired of people caring about what other people can or cannot do. As is the case with this thread. If you don't like immigrants changing the face of your country well tough luck because there is little you can do to prevent that, but I do agree that the culture of a nation should always be preserved and passed on to those who enter its borders. Now lets switch up the situation. Lets say that another group of minorities wanted the same treatment to a swimming pool in some random state. Would the situation be the same or different?

Btw, anyone remember that Pakistani girl that was on the news because her dad threatened her for converting? Random question in a serious thread, ftw. lol  

It's great to know muslims like you, that doesn't believe in jihad or that islam should conquer all the world. Well for what I read you seem to be the kind that keeps the religion to himself.

Let me ask you a question, if one of your children would like to marry one of my children in the future, would you let it happen even if there isn't any conversion?

What the hell!? Just because they follow their religion it doesn't mean they believe Islam should conquer the world. Other religions don't keep their belief's to themselves, Christmas decorations are hung up all over stores and streets, the US president refers to God in nearly every speech, Easter is basically thrown into everyone's faces.

I don't see why the majority should be making all the rules instead of coming up with a compromise like the pool has. Someone in this thread said that a one way mirror would have been more appropriate, would you accept that? It doesn't hurt you and it help's the muslim customers.

And even that is changing:

Students, staff and visitors will not find a Christmas tree in the lobby of the “Haagse Hogeschool” (College in The Hague, the Netherlands) this year. A Christmas tree is considered a symbol of a Christian celebration and a decorated Christmas tree in the school’s lobby would not convey the message of a culturally diverse institution.



 

leatherhat said:
lightbleeder said:

I hate it when inmigrants try to impose their views instead of blending with the community, but the worst of all is when the government people are all pussies that accept to change some stuff for those inmigrants.

It's like some countries are losing their identities...

France already has "no go areas" for original French citizens because they are arab-muslim ghettos where even the police won't go, how is that French people accept losing part of their very own country?

Some other european countries accept inmigrants that end living on government pension, contribute to the total crime rate (burglary, rapes...) and end up being a huge part of the percentage of prisoners. How is it that governments accept all of this? Would you like to know that you were robbed or raped or someone you know was by an inmigrant?

Also some arab muslim inmigrants try to impose their laws and views on the countries they settle, in the UK there are some ghettos where some muslim laws are legally enforced! They want women to wear the burka and/or the hijab and the goverments are happy accepting women wearing that kind of garments that are totally against western culture.

Radical arab muslims are still inmigrating at an alarming pace to Europe, also they're having the biggest birth rate in those countries, they will soon be a huge minority in almost all of Europe, to the extent of some countries losing a big bart of their culture, just have a look at the French team at the World Cup, almost all of them are of inmigrant descent, that is the image that France is giving to the world right now..

I'm not racist, this is not about race, I wouldn't mind if the inmigrants mix perfectly with the culture of the country they're moving into regardless of their race. This is about culture, the modern culture and liberties that europeans fought so hard to have are now in danger of being lost because of foreign culture invading Europe.

I have to say that not all arab muslims are trying to change other cultures, there are some of them that blend perfectly and accept all the activities of others, they are wonderful people, but there are that keep their radical views and try to take advantage of government wusses...

I agree with this statement. Its the same as in the united states where mexican immigrants aren't even expected to learn english. We can't be a melting pot unless some adaptation to the host countries cultures is done by immigrants. 


You are right guys if they  can't accept laws and customs in our countries then world is free nd they can go and live somewhere else and don't try to enforce minority views on majority.

I'm totally sick of the vocal minority getting everything they want under the disguise of tolerance.



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leatherhat said:
lightbleeder said:

I hate it when inmigrants try to impose their views instead of blending with the community, but the worst of all is when the government people are all pussies that accept to change some stuff for those inmigrants.

It's like some countries are losing their identities...

France already has "no go areas" for original French citizens because they are arab-muslim ghettos where even the police won't go, how is that French people accept losing part of their very own country?

Some other european countries accept inmigrants that end living on government pension, contribute to the total crime rate (burglary, rapes...) and end up being a huge part of the percentage of prisoners. How is it that governments accept all of this? Would you like to know that you were robbed or raped or someone you know was by an inmigrant?

Also some arab muslim inmigrants try to impose their laws and views on the countries they settle, in the UK there are some ghettos where some muslim laws are legally enforced! They want women to wear the burka and/or the hijab and the goverments are happy accepting women wearing that kind of garments that are totally against western culture.

Radical arab muslims are still inmigrating at an alarming pace to Europe, also they're having the biggest birth rate in those countries, they will soon be a huge minority in almost all of Europe, to the extent of some countries losing a big bart of their culture, just have a look at the French team at the World Cup, almost all of them are of inmigrant descent, that is the image that France is giving to the world right now..

I'm not racist, this is not about race, I wouldn't mind if the inmigrants mix perfectly with the culture of the country they're moving into regardless of their race. This is about culture, the modern culture and liberties that europeans fought so hard to have are now in danger of being lost because of foreign culture invading Europe.

I have to say that not all arab muslims are trying to change other cultures, there are some of them that blend perfectly and accept all the activities of others, they are wonderful people, but there are that keep their radical views and try to take advantage of government wusses...

I agree with this statement. Its the same as in the united states where mexican immigrants aren't even expected to learn english. We can't be a melting pot unless some adaptation to the host countries cultures is done by immigrants. 

This is spot on.

Over here in Australia our culture has pretty much been abolished.



 

 

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wick said:
leatherhat said:
lightbleeder said:

I hate it when inmigrants try to impose their views instead of blending with the community, but the worst of all is when the government people are all pussies that accept to change some stuff for those inmigrants.

It's like some countries are losing their identities...

France already has "no go areas" for original French citizens because they are arab-muslim ghettos where even the police won't go, how is that French people accept losing part of their very own country?

Some other european countries accept inmigrants that end living on government pension, contribute to the total crime rate (burglary, rapes...) and end up being a huge part of the percentage of prisoners. How is it that governments accept all of this? Would you like to know that you were robbed or raped or someone you know was by an inmigrant?

Also some arab muslim inmigrants try to impose their laws and views on the countries they settle, in the UK there are some ghettos where some muslim laws are legally enforced! They want women to wear the burka and/or the hijab and the goverments are happy accepting women wearing that kind of garments that are totally against western culture.

Radical arab muslims are still inmigrating at an alarming pace to Europe, also they're having the biggest birth rate in those countries, they will soon be a huge minority in almost all of Europe, to the extent of some countries losing a big bart of their culture, just have a look at the French team at the World Cup, almost all of them are of inmigrant descent, that is the image that France is giving to the world right now..

I'm not racist, this is not about race, I wouldn't mind if the inmigrants mix perfectly with the culture of the country they're moving into regardless of their race. This is about culture, the modern culture and liberties that europeans fought so hard to have are now in danger of being lost because of foreign culture invading Europe.

I have to say that not all arab muslims are trying to change other cultures, there are some of them that blend perfectly and accept all the activities of others, they are wonderful people, but there are that keep their radical views and try to take advantage of government wusses...

I agree with this statement. Its the same as in the united states where mexican immigrants aren't even expected to learn english. We can't be a melting pot unless some adaptation to the host countries cultures is done by immigrants. 

This is spot on.

Over here in Australia our culture has pretty much been abolished.

By who? I know loads of English who have gone to Australia but I would think they wouldf be more or less the same.



FootballFan said:
wick said:
leatherhat said:
lightbleeder said:

I hate it when inmigrants try to impose their views instead of blending with the community, but the worst of all is when the government people are all pussies that accept to change some stuff for those inmigrants.

It's like some countries are losing their identities...

France already has "no go areas" for original French citizens because they are arab-muslim ghettos where even the police won't go, how is that French people accept losing part of their very own country?

Some other european countries accept inmigrants that end living on government pension, contribute to the total crime rate (burglary, rapes...) and end up being a huge part of the percentage of prisoners. How is it that governments accept all of this? Would you like to know that you were robbed or raped or someone you know was by an inmigrant?

Also some arab muslim inmigrants try to impose their laws and views on the countries they settle, in the UK there are some ghettos where some muslim laws are legally enforced! They want women to wear the burka and/or the hijab and the goverments are happy accepting women wearing that kind of garments that are totally against western culture.

Radical arab muslims are still inmigrating at an alarming pace to Europe, also they're having the biggest birth rate in those countries, they will soon be a huge minority in almost all of Europe, to the extent of some countries losing a big bart of their culture, just have a look at the French team at the World Cup, almost all of them are of inmigrant descent, that is the image that France is giving to the world right now..

I'm not racist, this is not about race, I wouldn't mind if the inmigrants mix perfectly with the culture of the country they're moving into regardless of their race. This is about culture, the modern culture and liberties that europeans fought so hard to have are now in danger of being lost because of foreign culture invading Europe.

I have to say that not all arab muslims are trying to change other cultures, there are some of them that blend perfectly and accept all the activities of others, they are wonderful people, but there are that keep their radical views and try to take advantage of government wusses...

I agree with this statement. Its the same as in the united states where mexican immigrants aren't even expected to learn english. We can't be a melting pot unless some adaptation to the host countries cultures is done by immigrants. 

This is spot on.

Over here in Australia our culture has pretty much been abolished.

By who? I know loads of English who have gone to Australia but I would think they wouldf be more or less the same.


Well England and Australia have a pretty similar culture, so that's not much of an issue. It's things like christmas tree's are no longer allowed in primary schools and going to shops in some suburbs where the owners don't speak a word of english.



 

 

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Today it was covering the windows of a public pool, but what's gonna be next? This kind of thing leads to a chain reaction where this minority will slowly ask for more serious stuff and I'm pretty sure some of that serious stuff will be granted to them...

The worst of all is that I think it's inevitable the retun of fascism to Europe, just because politicians are being "politically correct" right now...

Just imagine that muslim population (the one that doesn't blend) becomes 25% of an european contry, of course they'll get more rights that are against the majority, and that will make some natural citizens really really mad, far-right politicians will take advantage of this and will make extreme promises, angry people will bite the bait and then slowly that country will become very fascist where the minorities will face very hard consequences...

There are some neo nazis and fascist groups getting stronger all accross europe because of this...