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Spire_VII on 30 June 2010
d21lewis said:

The answer is "yes".  It's dumbed down AND it's different.  It was fun but it certainly didn't feel like Splinter Cell to me.  Plus, the graphics were actually kinda dated.  Splinter Cell games in the past were always known for pushing the graphical envelope.

I bought it and I think it was worth the money (I'd give it an 8/10) but the game is actually pretty short.  I didn't give the two player mode a shot yet, though.  Anyway, if renting it is an option, I think you'd be better off renting it.  It definitely deserves to be played but it may not get replayed very often.


Do play through the 2-player modes, definitely a lot of fun and more challening. Especially the CO-OP Campaign on Realistic



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JPL78 on 30 June 2010

I thought the multiplayer was boring and uninspired.  Spys versus Mercs was much deeper. Co-op from Chaos Theory was much better.

I enjoyed going through the story but otherwise the entire game left me flat.  By far the worst splinter cell.  If you want to run through crowds of A.I. spamming bombs and mines, then just mark and execute everyone else, you might like it.  A friend of mine said it best after having played Conviction and then Double Agent, that Double Agent was a completely different, better game, in every single way.  And Double Agent is nothing compared to Chaos Theory.  Although, Conviction made me appreciate Double Agent more.

Either way if you can stand renting it, it doesn't take that long to get most if not all of the achievements and do everything there is to do.



CollectiveCynic on 30 June 2010
JPL78 said:

I thought the multiplayer was boring and uninspired.  Spys versus Mercs was much deeper. Co-op from Chaos Theory was much better.

I enjoyed going through the story but otherwise the entire game left me flat.  By far the worst splinter cell.  If you want to run through crowds of A.I. spamming bombs and mines, then just mark and execute everyone else, you might like it.  A friend of mine said it best after having played Conviction and then Double Agent, that Double Agent was a completely different, better game, in every single way.  And Double Agent is nothing compared to Chaos Theory.  Although, Conviction made me appreciate Double Agent more.

Either way if you can stand renting it, it doesn't take that long to get most if not all of the achievements and do everything there is to do.

It's worse than Double Agent? I thought it was one of the worst entries in the series, not that it was bad game though. I had problems with Double Agent's level design, it seemed they were designed for a third-person shooter that was cancelled and it was copy n' pasted into a Splinter Cell title. Another being it's story, half-assed and poorly presented. I see that this problem has found it's way into Conviction. 

Pandora Tomorrow is my least favorite, it's a total 100% trial-and-error fest.



oldschoolfool on 30 June 2010
CollectiveCynic said:
JPL78 said:

I thought the multiplayer was boring and uninspired.  Spys versus Mercs was much deeper. Co-op from Chaos Theory was much better.

I enjoyed going through the story but otherwise the entire game left me flat.  By far the worst splinter cell.  If you want to run through crowds of A.I. spamming bombs and mines, then just mark and execute everyone else, you might like it.  A friend of mine said it best after having played Conviction and then Double Agent, that Double Agent was a completely different, better game, in every single way.  And Double Agent is nothing compared to Chaos Theory.  Although, Conviction made me appreciate Double Agent more.

Either way if you can stand renting it, it doesn't take that long to get most if not all of the achievements and do everything there is to do.

It's worse than Double Agent? I thought it was one of the worst entries in the series, not that it was bad game though. I had problems with Double Agent's level design, it seemed they were designed for a third-person shooter that was cancelled and it was copy n' pasted into a Splinter Cell title. Another being it's story, half-assed and poorly presented.


no,it's not worse than Double Agent. It is a short game though. lol



CollectiveCynic on 30 June 2010
oldschoolfool said:
CollectiveCynic said:
JPL78 said:

I thought the multiplayer was boring and uninspired.  Spys versus Mercs was much deeper. Co-op from Chaos Theory was much better.

I enjoyed going through the story but otherwise the entire game left me flat.  By far the worst splinter cell.  If you want to run through crowds of A.I. spamming bombs and mines, then just mark and execute everyone else, you might like it.  A friend of mine said it best after having played Conviction and then Double Agent, that Double Agent was a completely different, better game, in every single way.  And Double Agent is nothing compared to Chaos Theory.  Although, Conviction made me appreciate Double Agent more.

Either way if you can stand renting it, it doesn't take that long to get most if not all of the achievements and do everything there is to do.

It's worse than Double Agent? I thought it was one of the worst entries in the series, not that it was bad game though. I had problems with Double Agent's level design, it seemed they were designed for a third-person shooter that was cancelled and it was copy n' pasted into a Splinter Cell title. Another being it's story, half-assed and poorly presented.


no,it's not worse than Double Agent. It is a short game though. lol


I still doubt it's as good as the first and third Splinter Cell titles. I'm going to be renting it, I'm not holding my breath for it though.



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oldschoolfool on 30 June 2010
CollectiveCynic said:
oldschoolfool said:
CollectiveCynic said:
JPL78 said:

I thought the multiplayer was boring and uninspired.  Spys versus Mercs was much deeper. Co-op from Chaos Theory was much better.

I enjoyed going through the story but otherwise the entire game left me flat.  By far the worst splinter cell.  If you want to run through crowds of A.I. spamming bombs and mines, then just mark and execute everyone else, you might like it.  A friend of mine said it best after having played Conviction and then Double Agent, that Double Agent was a completely different, better game, in every single way.  And Double Agent is nothing compared to Chaos Theory.  Although, Conviction made me appreciate Double Agent more.

Either way if you can stand renting it, it doesn't take that long to get most if not all of the achievements and do everything there is to do.

It's worse than Double Agent? I thought it was one of the worst entries in the series, not that it was bad game though. I had problems with Double Agent's level design, it seemed they were designed for a third-person shooter that was cancelled and it was copy n' pasted into a Splinter Cell title. Another being it's story, half-assed and poorly presented.


no,it's not worse than Double Agent. It is a short game though. lol


I still doubt it's as good as the first and third Splinter Cell titles. I'm going to be renting it, I'm not holding my breath for it though.

Renting it would be good,if your that unsure about it. lol



JPL78 on 30 June 2010

Its worst to me.  I mean, after playing through conviction and sending it back to gamefly I immediately felt the need to go buy Double Agent used just to fill some sad splinter cell void left by conviction.

But judging it as a stand alone Sam Fisher side game,  Splinters of War, or whatever, its fine. But judging it based on other actual good Splinter Cells, its worst.

There isn't even any depth or challenge to the game in general, its worst.  But I like a challenging game that makes you work on hard not a push over quick 1,000 points.  I felt cheapened.  I still don't have but 700 points in Double Agent and it was much more challenging.

I agree that it was lacking, and at the time I hated the JBA missions, but in all hindsight and where they took the series.  I just think its better, sorry.



Munkeh111 on 30 June 2010
oldschoolfool said:
Munkeh111 said:

Download the demo.

From a personal perspective, I hate stealth games, but I quite wanted to play SCC, quite a lot of it was because of the art style with the things objectives appearing on the environment and stuff. The problem is that I hate stealth, and I am kind of rubbish at it, and so I just failed a bit. But I only failed a bit, so I think it it dumbed down from a full stealth game, but not quite just an action game, I don't think there is a way to look down the sights of the gun which basically makes it impossible to play as a proper action game. But the best way to decide is to play the demo and decide if you like the way that the game works

You don't have to play it as a stealth game. A couple parts you do,but those are few. The number of enemies in some parts actually make it impossble to use stealth. Why would you want to look down the sights of the gun,it not a FPS game. lol


I am basicall incapable of killing people without looking down the sights, I just never felt in control while shooting people in that game {though by looking down the sights, I mean a closer over the shoulder view like Uncharted or Gears}. If you don't use stealth, then you are just playing a bad action game, and given Gears of War and Uncharted games are here, why would you play a game that is just not as good in full action as they are.



CollectiveCynic on 30 June 2010
JPL78 said:

Its worst to me.  I mean, after playing through conviction and sending it back to gamefly I immediately felt the need to go buy Double Agent used just to fill some sad splinter cell void left by conviction.

But judging it as a stand alone Sam Fisher side game,  Splinters of War, or whatever, its fine. But judging it based on other actual good Splinter Cells, its worst.

There isn't even any depth or challenge to the game in general, its worst.  But I like a challenging game that makes you work on hard not a push over quick 1,000 points.  I felt cheapened.  I still don't have but 700 points in Double Agent and it was much more challenging.

I agree that it was lacking, and at the time I hated the JBA missions, but in all hindsight and where they took the series.  I just think its better, sorry.

Yeah, I heard you don't have interesting gadgets anymore, there's no lock picking, and you can't hide bodies anymore. Seems to be watered down, I'm still going to rent it anyway. I'm sure it will be more fun than the trial-and-error fest that was Pandora Tomorrow, Spy vs. Mercs was the only reason I kept my copy for that game.



Onyxmeth on 30 June 2010

For those of you guys that felt the game lacked in stealth and was dumbed down, what difficulty did you play it on? I put it on the hardest setting on my first play through after hearing that in advance myself, and I found it rather enjoyable, with a good mix of challenge, slow pacing myself, and always thinking through my routes before I take them.



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