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kowenicki said:

Correct... which makes Stringers performance even worse...  I think you need to stop digging.

People did not know that "sony was gonna have a loss" ... sony had not had a loss for about 16 years until those recent losses.  Stop just making things up.  They were screwed by ridiculously tight profit margin and a fluctuating yen... in other words they had a very risky business model that blew up when the currency moved against them. 

Anyway im done now... Stringer has performed badly and been paid handsomly... if you think thats good then fine.

None of us are justifying his salary.  The point is, he was voted back in, at the salary and contract that he currently has. If when the contract was signed, they we're happy with him, and they thought the salary was justified, then that's the pill they need to swallow  if it turned  out bad.

Like a painting, anything is only worth as much as someone is willing to pay for it.



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More than deserved salaries, considering their results they should get more.

Talented engineers and executives that create progress, richness and work are paid less than high finance crooks and bankers that stole from savers and investors and crippled the economy.



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A fart without stink is like a sky without stars.
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kowenicki said:
Ataraxias said:
kowenicki said:
Arcturus said:
kowenicki said:
Arcturus said:
sethnintendo said:

Looks like Sony is overpaying for their CEO....

Is he really overpaid if Sony earned $80B in revenue over the past year versus Nintendo with $5.6B?



lol...

And one ALWAYS made a proifit, the other hasn't for 2 years.

Revenue is vanity... Profit is reality.

As ShadowSnake mentioned, I was merely pointing out that the two companies are quite different in size and therefore you can't directly compare compension levels as easily as they were.

Ok...

Which is why I then posted the article which compared him with the CEO's of  similar companies...

Except they're not that similar at all...

You're comparing Nintendo who does Video Game Hardware/Software and merchandise related to them; ONE GENERAL MARKET.

vs.

Sony who does all of the above Music, Film, Consumer Electronics, PCs/Laptops, Computer Software, Phones, Financial/Banking Services, IT services, and Industrial Components such as semiconductors.

Comparing the salaries of a singular market leader vs a conglomerate is silly.  Unless you believe Stringer is as involved in the gaming segment as Iwata is.  Which is laughable. 

sigh...

go and READ the article I posted... NOT the OP article.

then you can apologise. 

Or you can get off your high horse because your article does nothing to compare the actual JOBS of Stringer vs Iwata or any other CEO involved here.

Sony being a conglomerate requires Stringer analyze and deal with over a dozen markets vs Iwata's one.  By default Stringer has a higher comparative workload and should have a comparatively higher salary to boot.



Solid_Snake4RD said:
sethnintendo said:

Looks like Sony is overpaying for their CEO....


not at all

 

IWATA and many companies head take small checks to show they are earning very less

 

but they take in much more throught shares


Quite fair, though, so the biggest part of their earnings depends on their results.



Stwike him, Centuwion. Stwike him vewy wuffly! (Pontius Pilate, "Life of Brian")
A fart without stink is like a sky without stars.
TGS, Third Grade Shooter: brand new genre invented by Kevin Butler exclusively for Natal WiiToo Kinect. PEW! PEW-PEW-PEW! 
 


kowenicki said:
Ataraxias said:
kowenicki said:
Ataraxias said:
kowenicki said:
Arcturus said:
kowenicki said:
Arcturus said:
sethnintendo said:

Looks like Sony is overpaying for their CEO....

Is he really overpaid if Sony earned $80B in revenue over the past year versus Nintendo with $5.6B?



lol...

And one ALWAYS made a proifit, the other hasn't for 2 years.

Revenue is vanity... Profit is reality.

As ShadowSnake mentioned, I was merely pointing out that the two companies are quite different in size and therefore you can't directly compare compension levels as easily as they were.

Ok...

Which is why I then posted the article which compared him with the CEO's of  similar companies...

Except they're not that similar at all...

You're comparing Nintendo who does Video Game Hardware/Software and merchandise related to them; ONE GENERAL MARKET.

vs.

Sony who does all of the above Music, Film, Consumer Electronics, PCs/Laptops, Computer Software, Phones, Financial/Banking Services, IT services, and Industrial Components such as semiconductors.

Comparing the salaries of a singular market leader vs a conglomerate is silly.  Unless you believe Stringer is as involved in the gaming segment as Iwata is.  Which is laughable. 

sigh...

go and READ the article I posted... NOT the OP article.

then you can apologise. 

Or you can get off your high horse because your article does nothing to compare the actual JOBS of Stringer vs Iwata or any other CEO involved here.

Sony being a conglomerate requires Stringer analyze and deal with over a dozen markets vs Iwata's one.  By default Stringer has a higher comparative workload and should have a comparatively higher salary to boot.


So you still didnt read the article I posted... ok.

It compares Stringer with the CEO's of other huge Japanese based multinantionals...   and concludes he is overpaid.

Perhaps you should read your own article.  Or learn what a conglomerate is vs a multinational.  

The article only names Nissan and Panasonic, neither of which are conglomerates,  Panasonic compares to Sony better than Nintendo, but it's still far more narrow in scope than Sony.

"making him one of the highest paid executives at a Japanese company."  - There's nothing to compare the actual jobs or scope of the companies.



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kowenicki said:
Ataraxias said:
kowenicki said:
Ataraxias said:
kowenicki said:
Ataraxias said:
kowenicki said:
Arcturus said:
kowenicki said:
Arcturus said:
sethnintendo said:

Looks like Sony is overpaying for their CEO....

Is he really overpaid if Sony earned $80B in revenue over the past year versus Nintendo with $5.6B?



lol...

And one ALWAYS made a proifit, the other hasn't for 2 years.

Revenue is vanity... Profit is reality.

As ShadowSnake mentioned, I was merely pointing out that the two companies are quite different in size and therefore you can't directly compare compension levels as easily as they were.

Ok...

Which is why I then posted the article which compared him with the CEO's of  similar companies...

Except they're not that similar at all...

You're comparing Nintendo who does Video Game Hardware/Software and merchandise related to them; ONE GENERAL MARKET.

vs.

Sony who does all of the above Music, Film, Consumer Electronics, PCs/Laptops, Computer Software, Phones, Financial/Banking Services, IT services, and Industrial Components such as semiconductors.

Comparing the salaries of a singular market leader vs a conglomerate is silly.  Unless you believe Stringer is as involved in the gaming segment as Iwata is.  Which is laughable. 

sigh...

go and READ the article I posted... NOT the OP article.

then you can apologise. 

Or you can get off your high horse because your article does nothing to compare the actual JOBS of Stringer vs Iwata or any other CEO involved here.

Sony being a conglomerate requires Stringer analyze and deal with over a dozen markets vs Iwata's one.  By default Stringer has a higher comparative workload and should have a comparatively higher salary to boot.


So you still didnt read the article I posted... ok.

It compares Stringer with the CEO's of other huge Japanese based multinantionals...   and concludes he is overpaid.

Perhaps you should read your own article.  Or learn what a conglomerate is vs a multinational.  

The article only names Nissan and Panasonic, neither of which are conglomerates,  Panasonic compares to Sony better than Nintendo, but it's still far more narrow in scope than Sony.

"making him one of the highest paid executives at a Japanese company."

Thanks for quoting that line...  are you suggesting there arent any other japanese companies that are conglomerates?

btw, Panasonic is very much a conglomerate.

Somehow you missed the rest of it.

"making him one of the highest paid executives at a Japanese company."  - There's nothing to compare the actual jobs or scope of the companies.

I'll admit I made a writing mistake there as while Panasonic is a conglomerate, I meant that it still doesn't compare in sheer scope to Sony.   Panasonic almost entirely a electronics conglomerate; not dealing with Film or Computer Software etc.  

Again I would expect the executive that is required to deal with more market segments to be paid comparatively more.



i think we are basically saying if he can't bring them profit who gives  a shit how many branches he is in charge of.

he as CEO needs to do some cutting and figure out which branches are not worth it



kowenicki said:
Ataraxias said:
kowenicki said:
Ataraxias said:
kowenicki said:
Ataraxias said:
kowenicki said:
Ataraxias said:
kowenicki said:
Arcturus said:
kowenicki said:
Arcturus said:
sethnintendo said:

Looks like Sony is overpaying for their CEO....

Is he really overpaid if Sony earned $80B in revenue over the past year versus Nintendo with $5.6B?



lol...

And one ALWAYS made a proifit, the other hasn't for 2 years.

Revenue is vanity... Profit is reality.

As ShadowSnake mentioned, I was merely pointing out that the two companies are quite different in size and therefore you can't directly compare compension levels as easily as they were.

Ok...

Which is why I then posted the article which compared him with the CEO's of  similar companies...

Except they're not that similar at all...

You're comparing Nintendo who does Video Game Hardware/Software and merchandise related to them; ONE GENERAL MARKET.

vs.

Sony who does all of the above Music, Film, Consumer Electronics, PCs/Laptops, Computer Software, Phones, Financial/Banking Services, IT services, and Industrial Components such as semiconductors.

Comparing the salaries of a singular market leader vs a conglomerate is silly.  Unless you believe Stringer is as involved in the gaming segment as Iwata is.  Which is laughable. 

sigh...

go and READ the article I posted... NOT the OP article.

then you can apologise. 

Or you can get off your high horse because your article does nothing to compare the actual JOBS of Stringer vs Iwata or any other CEO involved here.

Sony being a conglomerate requires Stringer analyze and deal with over a dozen markets vs Iwata's one.  By default Stringer has a higher comparative workload and should have a comparatively higher salary to boot.


So you still didnt read the article I posted... ok.

It compares Stringer with the CEO's of other huge Japanese based multinantionals...   and concludes he is overpaid.

Perhaps you should read your own article.  Or learn what a conglomerate is vs a multinational.  

The article only names Nissan and Panasonic, neither of which are conglomerates,  Panasonic compares to Sony better than Nintendo, but it's still far more narrow in scope than Sony.

"making him one of the highest paid executives at a Japanese company."

Thanks for quoting that line...  are you suggesting there arent any other japanese companies that are conglomerates?

btw, Panasonic is very much a conglomerate.

Somehow you missed the rest of it.

"making him one of the highest paid executives at a Japanese company."  - There's nothing to compare the actual jobs or scope of the companies.

I'll admit I made a writing mistake there as while Panasonic is a conglomerate, I meant that it still doesn't compare in sheer scope to Sony.   Panasonic almost entirely a electronics conglomerate; not dealing with Film or Computer Software etc.  

Again I would expect the executive that is required to deal with more market segments to be paid comparatively more.



So would I if he was successful...

I'll concede this if you can find something to show how he could be doing better.  I mean it's one thing if he's playing golf 300 days a year and the company drops, vs working 50hrs a week and still having the company drop due to whatever.  I honestly don't know where he falls within that kind of scale



Ataraxias said:
kowenicki said:
Ataraxias said:
kowenicki said:
Ataraxias said:
kowenicki said:
Ataraxias said:
kowenicki said:
Ataraxias said:
kowenicki said:
Arcturus said:
kowenicki said:
Arcturus said:
sethnintendo said:

Looks like Sony is overpaying for their CEO....

Is he really overpaid if Sony earned $80B in revenue over the past year versus Nintendo with $5.6B?



lol...

And one ALWAYS made a proifit, the other hasn't for 2 years.

Revenue is vanity... Profit is reality.

As ShadowSnake mentioned, I was merely pointing out that the two companies are quite different in size and therefore you can't directly compare compension levels as easily as they were.

Ok...

Which is why I then posted the article which compared him with the CEO's of  similar companies...

Except they're not that similar at all...

You're comparing Nintendo who does Video Game Hardware/Software and merchandise related to them; ONE GENERAL MARKET.

vs.

Sony who does all of the above Music, Film, Consumer Electronics, PCs/Laptops, Computer Software, Phones, Financial/Banking Services, IT services, and Industrial Components such as semiconductors.

Comparing the salaries of a singular market leader vs a conglomerate is silly.  Unless you believe Stringer is as involved in the gaming segment as Iwata is.  Which is laughable. 

sigh...

go and READ the article I posted... NOT the OP article.

then you can apologise. 

Or you can get off your high horse because your article does nothing to compare the actual JOBS of Stringer vs Iwata or any other CEO involved here.

Sony being a conglomerate requires Stringer analyze and deal with over a dozen markets vs Iwata's one.  By default Stringer has a higher comparative workload and should have a comparatively higher salary to boot.


So you still didnt read the article I posted... ok.

It compares Stringer with the CEO's of other huge Japanese based multinantionals...   and concludes he is overpaid.

Perhaps you should read your own article.  Or learn what a conglomerate is vs a multinational.  

The article only names Nissan and Panasonic, neither of which are conglomerates,  Panasonic compares to Sony better than Nintendo, but it's still far more narrow in scope than Sony.

"making him one of the highest paid executives at a Japanese company."

Thanks for quoting that line...  are you suggesting there arent any other japanese companies that are conglomerates?

btw, Panasonic is very much a conglomerate.

Somehow you missed the rest of it.

"making him one of the highest paid executives at a Japanese company."  - There's nothing to compare the actual jobs or scope of the companies.

I'll admit I made a writing mistake there as while Panasonic is a conglomerate, I meant that it still doesn't compare in sheer scope to Sony.   Panasonic almost entirely a electronics conglomerate; not dealing with Film or Computer Software etc.  

Again I would expect the executive that is required to deal with more market segments to be paid comparatively more.



So would I if he was successful...

I'll concede this if you can find something to show how he could be doing better.  I mean it's one thing if he's playing golf 300 days a year and the company drops, vs working 50hrs a week and still having the company drop due to whatever.  I honestly don't know where he falls within that kind of scale

what are you an art teacher in high school?  Does he get an A for effort.



irstupid said:
Ataraxias said:
kowenicki said:
Ataraxias said:
kowenicki said:
Ataraxias said:
kowenicki said:
Ataraxias said:
kowenicki said:
Ataraxias said:
kowenicki said:
Arcturus said:
kowenicki said:
Arcturus said:
sethnintendo said:

Looks like Sony is overpaying for their CEO....

Is he really overpaid if Sony earned $80B in revenue over the past year versus Nintendo with $5.6B?



lol...

And one ALWAYS made a proifit, the other hasn't for 2 years.

Revenue is vanity... Profit is reality.

As ShadowSnake mentioned, I was merely pointing out that the two companies are quite different in size and therefore you can't directly compare compension levels as easily as they were.

Ok...

Which is why I then posted the article which compared him with the CEO's of  similar companies...

Except they're not that similar at all...

You're comparing Nintendo who does Video Game Hardware/Software and merchandise related to them; ONE GENERAL MARKET.

vs.

Sony who does all of the above Music, Film, Consumer Electronics, PCs/Laptops, Computer Software, Phones, Financial/Banking Services, IT services, and Industrial Components such as semiconductors.

Comparing the salaries of a singular market leader vs a conglomerate is silly.  Unless you believe Stringer is as involved in the gaming segment as Iwata is.  Which is laughable. 

sigh...

go and READ the article I posted... NOT the OP article.

then you can apologise. 

Or you can get off your high horse because your article does nothing to compare the actual JOBS of Stringer vs Iwata or any other CEO involved here.

Sony being a conglomerate requires Stringer analyze and deal with over a dozen markets vs Iwata's one.  By default Stringer has a higher comparative workload and should have a comparatively higher salary to boot.


So you still didnt read the article I posted... ok.

It compares Stringer with the CEO's of other huge Japanese based multinantionals...   and concludes he is overpaid.

Perhaps you should read your own article.  Or learn what a conglomerate is vs a multinational.  

The article only names Nissan and Panasonic, neither of which are conglomerates,  Panasonic compares to Sony better than Nintendo, but it's still far more narrow in scope than Sony.

"making him one of the highest paid executives at a Japanese company."

Thanks for quoting that line...  are you suggesting there arent any other japanese companies that are conglomerates?

btw, Panasonic is very much a conglomerate.

Somehow you missed the rest of it.

"making him one of the highest paid executives at a Japanese company."  - There's nothing to compare the actual jobs or scope of the companies.

I'll admit I made a writing mistake there as while Panasonic is a conglomerate, I meant that it still doesn't compare in sheer scope to Sony.   Panasonic almost entirely a electronics conglomerate; not dealing with Film or Computer Software etc.  

Again I would expect the executive that is required to deal with more market segments to be paid comparatively more.



So would I if he was successful...

I'll concede this if you can find something to show how he could be doing better.  I mean it's one thing if he's playing golf 300 days a year and the company drops, vs working 50hrs a week and still having the company drop due to whatever.  I honestly don't know where he falls within that kind of scale

what are you an art teacher in high school?  Does he get an A for effort.

So you're saying Stringer should be paid the same whether he's playing golf or actually working?  Cause your logic works both ways buddy.