E3 2010 has been and gone. And the only reliable source to find out how good a racing sim is is InsideSimRacing. So they went to E3 and seemd most impressed by F1 2010 at E3 over other racers. They dedicated an entire show to it.

Here check it out. Sim racing fans will want to watch this. Tyre rubber breaks off and creates that famous marble effect F1 fans will know of. Managing tyres are important on Sim mode. And the weather effects are the best ever seen in a racer.

Gonna be freaking awesome!

It's not really a total sim, looks arcady, but looks a lot of fun. And InsideSimRacing spent a hell of a lot of time playing Arcade racers (Grid etc) and they aren't any more credible than the next guy. (They try to make out that they are credible because they've driven racing cars - so have I and many others, what's the difference?).

I'm not sure i'l get it, it really depends on how much F1 variety GT5 will have because it is ultimately the best F1 car experience for realism fans. (Selnor is no doubt going to argue but look on Youtube and you will find split screen videos of GT5P and Massa - both taking the exact same racing lines and braking zones and ending up with lap times within 0.1s of each other - being that close to real life is what simulation is). But I'l probably end up getting this because it looks great fun, it has all the F1 tracks and up-to-date teams, and the weather effects look great in it.

Btw This is more an arcade racer (that's not a bad thing, they are generally more fun!) and yet you start spouting about marble effects etc. This game is fun, awesome, great...sure, but as usual Selnor you are being aggravating and hyping it up as something it isn't. 

And also note how poor visually the game looks compared to screenshots - Lol, I've seen that happen before. It looks very nice though and I'm not a graphics whore myself so I don't really care, but the bullshit shots I'm seeing nowadays is borderline illegal of being 'misinformation' lol.

When's it out btw???

Dude. ISR have alot of credibility so you think giving GRID 5/10 under the section realism means they have no credibility?

They only review racing games. They only review using actual top of the range force feedback wheels. 

The game looks fantastic. graphics look great, and obviously you didnt listen to the whole interview.

Rfactor and Iracing on the PC are regarded as the pinnacle of Simulation racing. On a scale of 1 to 10 they rate them 10.

Now on sim mode for F1 2010 it is likened to around an 8 against those games. That is very impressive. GT5P got a 7 I believe and FM3 a 9.

ISR deserve much more attention than any mainstream media like IGN who use stupid controllers and are 99% of the time not reviewed by people who love the racing genre. 

ISR only do the racing genre. That speaks volumes.

People need to firstly watch an interview. Then they need to wake up.

EDIT: It took the first guy on RFactor 4 and half months to get within half a second of Schumacher. Thats how realistic RFactor is. GT5P is nowhere near as realsitic as RFactor. The braking zones in GT5P are wrong, and it's not possible to brake in a corner at speeds you can in GT5P. If youve driven race cars you would no how bad that sounds.

You think ISR factually prove realism which they don't.

Forza 3 was a joke for any serious sim fan. It's mainly typical Xbox teens who sing Forza's defenses because they know no other. 

And if GT5P got a 7/10 for being 0.1s off real life pace...I can't say no more.

And yes, I've been in racing cars - not actually driven the cars and I think GT is the best *console* simulation, but I like all racing games. I don't go and research all this technical RFactor stuff and then use it to make arcady games sound realistic.

The game is awesome, but nobody who plays this will notice or give a damn about Marble effects. Lol.

LOL. Yes they will give a damn. It's one of if not the integral mentioned thing in F1. Any supporter of F1 will be thrilled it's in the game. The drivers have to restle this the entire race. 

That last comment lost me any sim respect for you. 

/ conversation between me and BBH. 

"And the only reliable source to find out how good a racing sim is is InsideSimRacing. "=

another free claim.

I prefer leave this thread and wait for review.

this game looks good, I was just playing the F1 championship game that launched with the PS3 the other day wondering where the sequel was.

Apparantly it is going to be a yearly release dev cycle.. I wish this wasnt the case.

We do know GT5 will have some F1, but I dont think it will be as emphasized as the WRC or Nascar will be within GT5, (and certainly not as much as F1 2010), would this be an accurate statement?