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Gnizmo said:

@Silver-tiger
When I outted the two of you was irrelevant at that point. There really is no explanation I can think of other than one of the two of you being scum. Godofwar was home one night so it kind of clears him. Now it could be that my power doesn't work precisely like one would expect, but it has been dead on so far. I trust my abilities more than I trust you guys.

There is potential for weirdness if scum isn't automatically out at night like I assume, or for some reason I don't see who kills the people I visit. Both of these are inconsistent with old games, and the latter would make my power completely useless for anything other than scum. It would be a cool mafia power in a future game to try and identify the cop, but pretty broken unless it is a power game. Admittedly this makes me look guilty, but I am cleared by the cop so I am going total honesty.

I play the game for the first time, is really every member of the mafia groups out at night  when they kill somebody? Let's just say as an example: Mafia A consists of 3 members, Mafia 1, Mafia 2, and Mafia 3. If Mafia A decides to kill, let's say Final-Fan, can't they just send one member, for that example, Mafia 2? That would mean that Mafia 1 and Mafia 3 wouldn't be out at that night.

It's just a theory, but that could explain GodofWar's kill last night.



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Silver-Tiger said:

I play the game for the first time, is really every member of the mafia groups out at night  when they kill somebody? Let's just say as an example: Mafia A consists of 3 members, Mafia 1, Mafia 2, and Mafia 3. If Mafia A decides to kill, let's say Final-Fan, can't they just send one member, for that example, Mafia 2? That would mean that Mafia 1 and Mafia 3 wouldn't be out at that night.

It's just a theory, but that could explain GodofWar's kill last night.


Yes, typically mafia are always out at night since thats when they need to converse.



Starcraft 2 ID: Gnizmo 229

#1 Gniz, you should have exposed GoW as being at tan and then asked him why.... if he said he followed silver, you could have confirmed it and the discution would be over.... if he said something else then.... But good catch anyways as one is a meanie.

#2 I have mixed feelings on GoW:

His powers work one night out of two (said himself), yet he managed to folow 2 killers on the nights they killed... out of 3 tries? that's pretty lucky... and thus pretty suspicious.

He put J0 on the electric chair, one of the 4 Mafia A, this means both that he can't be mafia A 5 of them would be overkill and wouldn't make sense with the character names...) and can't have known about j0 without the help of a power...or a mafia B having investigative powers ... does this even exist?

#3 I have mixed feelings on Silver:

He didn't post much, i'd say as if trying not to expose himself. (then again, 249 posts count, we have about 10% of his posting history in this thread.... so that argument holds no water).

His power seems really useless.... so is his use of it...

"My role is Abel. I suffer from amnesia.I am in constant battle to regain my memories. Thatt's why I am an Investigator. I can find out if one is an investigator like me, a cop or nothing special. I viestigated Tanstalas this night. Indeed he was a cop. i can confirm you that now."

If there's anyone we didn't have much doubts on the role, it was him... so why investigate him?



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A question though...

If Mafia B kills Tan, shouldn't all the mafia B players be present at Tan's house? (first game too :p)



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Hephaestos said:

A question though...

If Mafia B kills Tan, shouldn't all the mafia B players be present at Tan's house? (first game too :p)


Your plan is a better one. I admit I goofed on the reveal in hindsight. Had I had more patience and just left well enough alone we could have been done with this. As for two mafia at his house well, thats unlikely. You send one guy normally. If he gets role blocked then the kill fails.

The reason I did reveal is because name claims have been a pretty good indicator of alignment so far. I mean spot on accurate every time. We seem to have hit a situation where this may not be true though. Abel is, potentially, a clone of Seth and so might have been thrown in with that lot to balance numbers.

At this point we have hit a brick wall I feel. I really don't like the thought of 7 mafia against us in a 17 person game with a serial killer on the loose, but it seems we are heading that way. I am really hoping someone comes along to contradict the role claim. Hell, at this point the serial killer needs to be working with the town just to make sure he doesn't lose to overwhelming numbers of the mafia. The balance is really hard to work with right now.



Starcraft 2 ID: Gnizmo 229

Hephaestos said:

#2 I have mixed feelings on GoW:

His powers work one night out of two (said himself), yet he managed to folow 2 killers on the nights they killed... out of 3 tries? that's pretty lucky... and thus pretty suspicious.

He put J0 on the electric chair, one of the 4 Mafia A, this means both that he can't be mafia A 5 of them would be overkill and wouldn't make sense with the character names...) and can't have known about j0 without the help of a power...or a mafia B having investigative powers ... does this even exist?


Night 1 - I followed j0 because I tried to lynch him on day one because his SF character was evil.

Night 3 - Followed Vetteman. He didn't leave his house.

Night 5 - I followed silver-tiger because out of all those left, he was the one that posted the least. And I took those who were cleared as innocent out of the question. I've been pretty lucky, yeah.

I say this again. If I am mafia B (which I'm not), why would a fellow member, Nikells name-claim to be Guy ? Thats crazyness. I can't be mafia A because I voted to lynch j0 EVERY day of the game till he was lynched (I think).Hell, I wanted him to be lynched on day 1 for his character being evil.

since I'm not either mafia A or B, I'd have to be the SK to be evil, but Tanstalas' kill has been marked as a Mafia B kill, thus proving that I did not kill him and that I'm not the SK.

On another note, I will not be here for another 13 hours. By that time, I hope ya'll lynch silver-tiger, a.k.a. mafia.



oh yeah forgot that he name claimed! that makes it only luck on the last one then and clever investigation on the other :-p

did tan ever check gow?  the only way for him to be bad is if there is an investigative mafia role... and even then actions are in his favor.

silver still has a fishy role claim, waiting on fufinu and snake's inputs (we ain't many, might as well all get to talk).



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Hephaestos said:

oh yeah forgot that he name claimed! that makes it only luck on the last one then and clever investigation on the other :-p

did tan ever check gow?  the only way for him to be bad is if there is an investigative mafia role... and even then actions are in his favor.

silver still has a fishy role claim, waiting on fufinu and snake's inputs (we ain't many, might as well all get to talk).

For some reason he didn't. I was really hoping he would do it but so much for that. I am also concerned with Evil Ryu at this point.



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Gnizmo said:

Vetteman was with you one night as I recall. I am 90% certain he has a protective role. I have been figuring doctor. Be nice if he claimed it though. Silver-tiger is also not Evil Ryu. His kills have been quite clearly labeled as "annihilated." In addition he didn't act tonight. Personally I am liking Snake-eyez for Evil Ryu.


Sorry to burst your bubble, but I'm not Evil Ryu. I was investigated a couple pages back.

Tanstalas said:

Well, noone wants to wait for my investigation it seems :P

Well anyhow, investigated Snake-Eyez

Guil.... oh wait no, he was innocent :P

 

May as well jump on the bandwagon

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As for who I think should be lynched, is Silver Tiger.  only 3 ppl was at Tan's house the day of his death, 2 of them have been proven innocent and one is a question mark. He claims he's Abel, and while he may have lost his memories, that doesn't make him a good guy. His character's role may be that he needs to kill the right person to get his memories back or something along those lines.

 

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