This would suck if true...but I'm not gonna believe anything until MS announces a price themselves.

If all these pricing rumours are correct then MS is launching Kinect DOA.

I hate to say it but Kinect is looking like it will meet my expectations for it.  Those expectations are for failure.  Without a button or clicker of some sort, the games will be limited and ultimately niche.  The pricing needs to be low because they consumers just aren't going to get comprehensive value out of the device.  There will be too many game types it isn't suited for.  I think Sony made the right choice here with including that controller (although I think Move will have it's own problems with selling expensive peripherals and games on top of a more expensive game console).  Of all the options though, Microsoft should have included some sort of direct response device to go with their motion controls.  The inability to work with sitting players is going to suck also.  I'm glad companies are trying some thing new, I just see too many problems with this.

I give this thread a 9.5.

Ironically the three most successful games of the generation, Wii Sports tennis -> No buttons needed, Wii Fit -> No buttons and Mario Kart -> one button? aren't niche at all.

Anyway its obvious why. Kinect games are all at least 50% better than Move games which is why they cost more. Everyone knows when you pay more you get better products, just ask anyone with a PS3.

That is a game I'd buy!

aw natal :/ u had potential, i guess it's all on marketing now.

It's ok don't worry, they'll be $39.99

I responded to most of this in another thread but I'll give insert a quick highlight from it here.

Wii Sports - a great tech demo for the system, but not only did it come with the system so success is hard to gauge for it, but the Wii couldn't have survived on just these kind of games.

Wii Fit - sold on a system that already had great casual market penetration.  Wouldn't have sold half as well on the 360 or PS3.

Mario Kart has a button for breaking and another for looking back.  How are you going to look back in Kinect?

Not every game needs buttons, but having none at all limits what kind of games Kinect can offer.  Anyway, I went into more detail in the other thread.

I give that post a 9.3.

casual wii games are priced at full price, so I see nothing wrong with this. 

we know which system is getting more quality casual titles at least (xbox 360!)

We'll find out in August what the prices will be for the games and kinec t device. Remember Sony is launching Move in Sept while Microsoft is launching Kinect in Nov thats at least a month and a half apart. It makes sense than that Sony already announced this stuff and Microsoft hasn't. We only have to wait a little while longer to find this out and we will know enough in advance for those of us interested in grabbing the device so no big deal I just hope the prices of the games are slightly cheaper and fingers crossed that kinect is also even though I would pay $150 easily for that thing. I am hopign Kinect ends up being no more than $120 though.