Well, that'd work around being able to use it with everyone.

Odd that they hadn't mentioned it on the eu blog with quite a few people raging that it isn't there.

One thing that made me raise my eyebrows is the constant mention of "duration of you subscription" during the PSN talk. So if I have PSN plus and I get a free or discounted game and my subscription were to end at the end of the month, I wouldn't be able to play it after? That is a BIG let down.

Automatic download should be free. Maybe not the whole waking up and downloading it but not having to sit there looking at the screen while it updates the game should be free. Any word on the rumored XMB revamp?

I think that ought to apply for the free contents they offer. Unless they have two modes of purchasing where you choose whether to rent discounted or buy full price.... otherwise they are pretty much locking you into renting.

Pretty weak. They really should have included cloud saving and the protection plan.

Sorry to say, but Sony fucked themselves with that whole "gamers' Bill of Rights" business while Microsoft continues to rake it in.

There's some weird going on wtih CGVC.  It's not mentioned on any of the english sites:

http://uk.playstation.com/playstationplus/

It's only mentioned on the eastern european sites, and unlike the rest of the information on those sites, it's untranslated.  Sounds like they originally planned to include it as part fo the service, but they pulled it last minute.  We'll find out whenever they announce firmware 3.40, I guess.  You need 3.40 for PSN , so we'll hear about it before the end of the month at the latest.

 I don't remember what did they say they were doing with Qore? i already pay for that ,$25 dollars  might be ok if it included... or i might just start paying for live.hope they have subscription cards so amazon/ online retailers can inevitably sell them cheaper. 

edit; and later on they better add cloud saving/ google tv or something to make this better. and i hope what makingmusic said is right and they cut it out at the last minute

Cloud storage was something they said would come later in the rumor, so I assume it's still a work in progress.

I believe Qore is included in PSN .

The PS1, PSN and mini games is interesting to me. Maybe I'll consider trying it out now that I've been working at a job for a while so I have some disposable income, but I don't know. I haven't been the biggest of fans of subscription and charging for a lot of features.

I'm at least glad that stuff like playing online will remain free and I hope that cross game voice chat is released as a free feature.

Where is the 3 months free ?