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Digital foundry comments that it wasn't scripted.  The videos show correlation between his movements and the cursor, and what you think is moving left in absolute space doesn't matter, because it seems like the system reads your hand movements relative to your body, of which it moved right the whole time.

And here's a protip - sites like GAF, 4ch are only big on the internet world to a small demographic, where opinions are like assholes where everyone has one and are worthless.  Mainstream media does not care, it was demoed live, you are simply manufacturing a controversy where there is none.  Google news for "kinect" shows zip.  Keep spouting your drivel, no one who matters gives a shit.



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youarebadatgames said:

Digital foundry comments that it wasn't scripted.  The videos show correlation between his movements and the cursor, and what you think is moving left in absolute space doesn't matter, because it seems like the system reads your hand movements relative to your body, of which it moved right the whole time.

And here's a protip - sites like GAF, 4ch are only big on the internet world to a small demographic, where opinions are like assholes where everyone has one and are worthless.  Mainstream media does not care, it was demoed live, you are simply manufacturing a controversy where there is none.  Google news for "kinect" shows zip.  Keep spouting your drivel, no one who matters gives a shit.

your right. headline sites don't show anything on their frontpage. Behind the scenes the forums have a different take.

I've heard everything. From body relativity, to snap-and-lock ease, to smoothing, to "the hand automatically pops up when you look straight".

whatver i'm done.



theprof00 said:
youarebadatgames said:

Digital foundry comments that it wasn't scripted.  The videos show correlation between his movements and the cursor, and what you think is moving left in absolute space doesn't matter, because it seems like the system reads your hand movements relative to your body, of which it moved right the whole time.

And here's a protip - sites like GAF, 4ch are only big on the internet world to a small demographic, where opinions are like assholes where everyone has one and are worthless.  Mainstream media does not care, it was demoed live, you are simply manufacturing a controversy where there is none.  Google news for "kinect" shows zip.  Keep spouting your drivel, no one who matters gives a shit.

your right. headline sites don't show anything on their frontpage. Behind the scenes the forums have a different take.


What forums would that be?  4ch?  Why don't you go around and tell your friends, coworkers, and family about the hilarity there and watch how fast they tune out.

No one but bored, reclusive gaming addicts take the time to post their worthless opinions (I am on vacation).  It's laughable how vocal the core demographic has become - the exact same demographic that continually bashes the wii, Just Dance, and things that bring gaming to the masses.  I'm glad everyone is moving to casual stuff, not everyone has the time or the patience to learn how to develop the fine motor skills to manipulate a controller.

The marketplace will decide whether or not to embrace kinect.  Haters will keep on hating, as usual.



youarebadatgames said:
theprof00 said:
youarebadatgames said:

Digital foundry comments that it wasn't scripted.  The videos show correlation between his movements and the cursor, and what you think is moving left in absolute space doesn't matter, because it seems like the system reads your hand movements relative to your body, of which it moved right the whole time.

And here's a protip - sites like GAF, 4ch are only big on the internet world to a small demographic, where opinions are like assholes where everyone has one and are worthless.  Mainstream media does not care, it was demoed live, you are simply manufacturing a controversy where there is none.  Google news for "kinect" shows zip.  Keep spouting your drivel, no one who matters gives a shit.

your right. headline sites don't show anything on their frontpage. Behind the scenes the forums have a different take.


What forums would that be?  4ch?  Why don't you go around and tell your friends, coworkers, and family about the hilarity there and watch how fast they tune out.

No one but bored, reclusive gaming addicts take the time to post their worthless opinions (I am on vacation).  It's laughable how vocal the core demographic has become - the exact same demographic that continually bashes the wii, Just Dance, and things that bring gaming to the masses.  I'm glad everyone is moving to casual stuff, not everyone has the time or the patience to learn how to develop the fine motor skills to manipulate a controller.

The marketplace will decide whether or not to embrace kinect.  Haters will keep on hating, as usual.


You just posted your, apparently, worthless opinion. You're a bored, reclusive gamer?

You know, other than absolute fact, these forums, which you are apart of, are kept alive by, guess what? OPINIONATED DISCUSSION. If only bored gamers post, then you're a bored gamer, which you so eloquently insulted. If not, gtfo of VGC



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tuscaniman said:
JaggedSac said:
shanep said:

I think you need to look at these videos from 1up and destructoid as they look and play the demo in person. Everything in the media breifing is being shown here and done by the press, plus more.

1up

http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/29918

Destructoid

http://www.destructoid.com/e3-10-floaty-hands-on-clips-of-kinect-with-forza-176551.phtml 


/thread?

Yes enough of the bs propaganda. I watched the videos, its works, and Kinect is amazing. I will be buying it. Expect to see some core games coming out in 2011. Turn 10 has only had 6 months with this tech. Give it a little time and Kinect is going to impress.

Just curious, but how does ~ 1/2 second delay, assisted steering, and automated acceleration/braking = Core gaming?



tuscaniman said:
theprof00 said:
tuscaniman said:
theprof00 said:
tuscaniman said:
theprof00 said:
JaggedSac said:
theprof00 said:

well that's where we disagree. I like my demos to be real, especially during the presentations. Everything sony and nintendo showed was live. What does MS have to hide?


A slip up like the Zelda one?

EDIT: beaten

nintendo has not shown one "video" since its release and they are the best selling console right now. Slip-ups are part of the show, and everyone understands that later on it will work properly. There is leeway for that. There isn't much leeway for faking it. Especially if we are going to sit there and watch you not actually play the game. that is fucked up. How much of people's time did they waste?

MS slipped up by doing this, not by having a perfect demonstration.


I guess you can't just put it to rest. MS didn't slip up at all, only in your mind. I don't hear anyone complaining about possibly fake demos. You're the only one who is complaining. But I know more people noticed the Zelda slip-up.

then your not listening. I dind't come up with this whole topic myself. I was on 4 chan, which was dominated by gifs of MS' "reverse lag", it is on Gaf, and a bunch of other sites as big stories.

Yawn I'm done arguing about this. We'll see what everyone thinks when this holiday season rolls around.

lol that's your response? Remind me never to talk to you again. You say nobody thinks this is a slip up and I remind you that its a story on every big and small site and you say "yawn".

Kinect does more than the Wii and Move could ever dream of. And I've been on Gametrailers, IGN, Giantbomb, Gamespot and I haven't seen one article about this. Try again.

We've still yet to see game types beyond ones where you flail your arms around like a banshee trying to hit a ball or jump over river rocks.  While that's pretty neat that they can register things like that....It's not a game changer (certainly not for $150).  The game types for Kinect will be limited and probably ridiculously average. 

It's kind of like the pouring water for the monkey and feeding him on the Eyetoy.  It's pretty meh overall. 

 

I firmly believe Kinect will become the next 'Sega CD'.   The similarities are kind of shocking IMO. 



youarebadatgames said:
theprof00 said:
youarebadatgames said:

Digital foundry comments that it wasn't scripted.  The videos show correlation between his movements and the cursor, and what you think is moving left in absolute space doesn't matter, because it seems like the system reads your hand movements relative to your body, of which it moved right the whole time.

And here's a protip - sites like GAF, 4ch are only big on the internet world to a small demographic, where opinions are like assholes where everyone has one and are worthless.  Mainstream media does not care, it was demoed live, you are simply manufacturing a controversy where there is none.  Google news for "kinect" shows zip.  Keep spouting your drivel, no one who matters gives a shit.

your right. headline sites don't show anything on their frontpage. Behind the scenes the forums have a different take.


What forums would that be?  4ch?  Why don't you go around and tell your friends, coworkers, and family about the hilarity there and watch how fast they tune out.

No one but bored, reclusive gaming addicts take the time to post their worthless opinions (I am on vacation).  It's laughable how vocal the core demographic has become - the exact same demographic that continually bashes the wii, Just Dance, and things that bring gaming to the masses.  I'm glad everyone is moving to casual stuff, not everyone has the time or the patience to learn how to develop the fine motor skills to manipulate a controller.

The marketplace will decide whether or not to embrace kinect.  Haters will keep on hating, as usual.

if u need fine motors skills to grab a controller, then u shouldn't be playing games.. more like seeing a doctor.



Xoj said:
youarebadatgames said:
theprof00 said:
youarebadatgames said:

Digital foundry comments that it wasn't scripted.  The videos show correlation between his movements and the cursor, and what you think is moving left in absolute space doesn't matter, because it seems like the system reads your hand movements relative to your body, of which it moved right the whole time.

And here's a protip - sites like GAF, 4ch are only big on the internet world to a small demographic, where opinions are like assholes where everyone has one and are worthless.  Mainstream media does not care, it was demoed live, you are simply manufacturing a controversy where there is none.  Google news for "kinect" shows zip.  Keep spouting your drivel, no one who matters gives a shit.

your right. headline sites don't show anything on their frontpage. Behind the scenes the forums have a different take.


What forums would that be?  4ch?  Why don't you go around and tell your friends, coworkers, and family about the hilarity there and watch how fast they tune out.

No one but bored, reclusive gaming addicts take the time to post their worthless opinions (I am on vacation).  It's laughable how vocal the core demographic has become - the exact same demographic that continually bashes the wii, Just Dance, and things that bring gaming to the masses.  I'm glad everyone is moving to casual stuff, not everyone has the time or the patience to learn how to develop the fine motor skills to manipulate a controller.

The marketplace will decide whether or not to embrace kinect.  Haters will keep on hating, as usual.

if u need fine motors skills to grab a controller, then u shouldn't be playing games.. more like seeing a doctor.

Try actually thinking about what he said instead of trolling his post.  Using a controller requires a modest amount of hand eye coordination and for many games there is a precision element that makes pickup and play impossible for someone not experienced with joypads. 



The whole M$ Conference is people pretending and move according to the 'video' on stage, not playing the 'games', which makes it one of the worst presentation in E3 history.