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Wii - Legitimate Next Gen Contender or Flash in the Pan?

Wii.

What was once just a silly name for a console has surprised the world with a newly designed control scheme and simplistic, all-hands approach to gaming. It’s common knowledge that the Wii is selling extremely well, and in some places still hard to find. However, is the Wii really a legitimate contender in the newest, fiercest generation of gaming? Can the two heavy-weight consoles, the Xbox 360 and PS3 really see the Wii as a threat?

For a moment, let’s take a step back from hypes and fads and look at the Wii from a different angle. Nintendo is having trouble keeping up with demand because people obviously want to buy it, right? That much is obvious, the way units are flying off the shelves. What about in a year from now? What about two years from now? Is the longevity of the system guaranteed simply because of stellar initial sales? While it’s definitely too early to tell, I feel that the answer is “no.”

Now please, dear reader, don’t fly off the handle thinking that I’m completely trouncing on the Wii. I own a Wii and enjoy it thoroughly. But while the Wii can be a fun system to play, it seems that at this point it’s not much more than a novelty item vice a “next gen” gaming system. Even more evident is the lack of great games being released, especially when the 360 and PS3 are pumping out not only their own exclusives, but killer ports as well. And that’s not to say that the Wii doesn’t have any good games; it does. But how many of these games are pushed from third party developers versus the amount of great games developed first party? You can’t win on an ingenuitive control scheme alone.

“But Chris, you fool, Nintendo isn’t catering to the hard core gamer scene! They’re aiming for the non-gaming demographic, so :P” And you may very well have a valid point, but let me rebuke. The “non gamer” scene that Nintendo is aiming for might just very well be its undoing. After all the fun little niche games have been filled, (Wii Sports, Wii Fit, Wii Play, Mario Party, etc.) what more can Nintendo or third party developers really offer? Wii Sports II? Mario Party 10? Non-gamers aren’t looking for feature-packed sequels or on-line co-op multi-player with competitive score boards, they’re looking for something they can pick up and put down in a mere half-hour or play casually with friends during a party. Once their library has a few titles that can offer that, they probably won’t be going out and reserving next summer’s smash hit. In fact, truth be told, a 50 year old adult who’s a Wiikend Warrior won’t be scouring forums or Gamestop for upcoming releases. It’s just fact. And while there are hard core gamers out there who’ll support the Wii vehemently, is that really enough to sustain the console with three very powerful competitors drawing more and more attention with each hit game that lines the shelves?

Developers aren’t pushing as hard to make good games for the Wii simply because there is no incentive to do so. As a developer, you can put your eggs into one basket (Wii) and try and develop a blockbuster game to generate profits that may or may not tank, OR, you can diversify your market by designing a game for two or three other markets (PS3, Xbox 360, PC). From a company’s standpoint, which would make more sense? The best business choice is to target a broader market because that’s where the money is. You simply can’t port most of the games that come out on the 360, PS3, and PC to the Wii. Even if you were able to, the next step is to somehow maintain the gameplay while using a uniquely different interface device, assuming not everyone has a classic controller (which may not feature all the required buttons). I know there are games that have been ported to all three consoles, and you could try and throw that back at me. But again, take a look at the quality of those games, and suddenly we’re back where we started. You can’t effectively make amazing games work on three very different consoles without glaring sacrifices. Don’t even try it!

By alienating differentiating themselves from the competition, it seems what Nintendo is really doing is painting themselves into a pretty tight corner with the Wii. By having a separate, unique system to develop for, one that can’t fully handle this generation’s graphics, it’s not surprising to see majority of hit titles coming out for the 360, PS3, and PC only. Offering various peripherals and re-hashed franchises won’t be enough to keep the system afloat for this generation’s powerhouse game systems.

R/

What absolute nonsense - here we are after 12 months with 10 million sellers for the Wii and probably just as many 500,000 sellers he uses weak stereotypes such as "Wiikend Warrior" as whose not gonna buy many games and state that third parties aren't interested in developing for the Wii yet he doesn't mention channels such as Wiiware thats put out there to help third parties produce original lower budget games out there and get used to developing for Wii. 

 

Just cos the Wii doesn't tick all of the original console boxes is phobics like this that should research a little.



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I heard this crap last year.



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"Re-hashed franchises."

Yes, because Gran Turismo, Metal Gear, Final Fantasy, Killzone, and Grand Theft Auto are completey innovative with every new sequel.



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Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

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Technophobes still don't get the Wii

Mike from Morgantown



      


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I still can't believe people call the Wii a fad. For a fad to happen it needs to have short term success and then nothing else. I don't call being on top for more than a year, a fad or a flash in the pan. That thing about Wii, is simply false and an impossibility as it's lasted this long on top. It could start going down right now in sales and it still wouldn't be a fad because of that. Anyone who calls Wii a fad is incorrect definition wise. Need another word people.



Lordy, lordy. People are still onto this? I think it's too late to call it a fad. Get over it, haters betta recognize.



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Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita

Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you

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pssst...don't forget Halo...



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Another poorly reasoned argument, has the DS sales of nongames slowed, has the Wii's? Nope and nope, to say that Wii buyers won't buy another game is foolish.

This guy unfortunately is looking at the market as a "hardcore gamer" ignoring that just because he doesn't think a game is worthwhile others disagree.

Finally he assumes that the 360 and PS3 have the only hit franchises, sorry bub but the hits on PS3 haven't been selling all that well, Wii software is selling far better, 360 is still king of the roost in NA, but outside of NA its a bit player at best, in Japan its a non factor.



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)