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Xxain on 11 June 2010
lestatdark said:
dtewi said:
lestatdark said:

They said that they're we're trying to go for a more similar feeling as Modern Warfare, as in the way that the action happened and the events of the game unfolded, so structurally, it had more similarities to a FPS (can't seem to see where that structure is ).

I don't see why all the fuss regarding the classification of FFXIII as a RPG or not. I've seen RPG's with less RPG mechanics than FFXIII that are still considered to be RPG's as well. 

Surely you don't mean.... Kingdom Hearts!

Nope. KH structure reminds me a lot of Terranigma's structure. I'm talking specifically to games like the Castlevania series, post SOTN (they're more adventure games like Metroid than RPG, they only have a tacked on stats and level system) or, why not say it, the latest Mass Effect game (which had far more structural similarities to a TPS with limited RPG mechanics borrowed from the same KOTOR background). 

Don't get me wrong, I love all those games I mentioned. I just find the whole situation kinda funny. I mean, people just shift definitions to fit their own agenda. Ah well, that's the internetz


uuuhhhh....lest, very few ppl consider Castlevania games a as RPG's. There known as platfomers or action/adventure games with RPG elements. Ive never heard somebody call SOTN or any post game a full on RPG



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dtewi on 11 June 2010

For god's sake, I neglect to see how 1 iteration = ZOMG! Series Death!!



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SmoothCriminal on 11 June 2010
Wagram said:
badgenome said:

You can put a J in front of it, but it's not an RPG.


You can keep telling yourself that. Because it is no matter what you or the others say.


In order for a game to be an RPG, it must involve role-playing, something that most JRPGs tend to not have. As far as I'm concerned, Final Fantasy is just as much an RPG as The Secret of Monkey Island. The real distinction should be between western and eastern adventure games, as that is what they really are.



Wagram on 11 June 2010

Apparently 5.5Million copies of a game equals the series is dead. Damn I wonder what genius came up with that logic.



lestatdark on 11 June 2010
Xxain said:
lestatdark said:
dtewi said:
lestatdark said:

They said that they're we're trying to go for a more similar feeling as Modern Warfare, as in the way that the action happened and the events of the game unfolded, so structurally, it had more similarities to a FPS (can't seem to see where that structure is ).

I don't see why all the fuss regarding the classification of FFXIII as a RPG or not. I've seen RPG's with less RPG mechanics than FFXIII that are still considered to be RPG's as well. 

Surely you don't mean.... Kingdom Hearts!

Nope. KH structure reminds me a lot of Terranigma's structure. I'm talking specifically to games like the Castlevania series, post SOTN (they're more adventure games like Metroid than RPG, they only have a tacked on stats and level system) or, why not say it, the latest Mass Effect game (which had far more structural similarities to a TPS with limited RPG mechanics borrowed from the same KOTOR background). 

Don't get me wrong, I love all those games I mentioned. I just find the whole situation kinda funny. I mean, people just shift definitions to fit their own agenda. Ah well, that's the internetz


uuuhhhh....lest, very few ppl consider Castlevania games a as RPG's. There known as platfomers or action/adventure games with RPG elements. Ive never heard somebody call SOTN or any post game a full on RPG

Well, they're categorized as being RPG's, especially the handheld ones. And i've seen quite some people here on VGC rating SOTN as one of their favorite RPG's as well. I wouldn't call them a full RPG, but they do share some action-RPG mechanics. 

Probably it wasn't the best example though. It's 2 A.M in here and my mind sometimes takes these mental blunders at this hour >_<



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ShadowSoldier on 11 June 2010

Persona 4....Nuff Said



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"In video game terms, RPGs are games that involve a form of separate battles taking place with a specialized battle system and the use of a system that increases your power through a form of points.

Sure, what you say is the definition, but the connotation of RPGs is what they are in video games." - dtewi

Xxain on 11 June 2010

When ppl say is FF dead...what context are you talking in?  FF is loosing its essence but its very far from dead in my opinion



dtewi on 11 June 2010
SmoothCriminal said:

In order for a game to be an RPG, it must involve role-playing, something that most JRPGs tend to not have. As far as I'm concerned, Final Fantasy is just as much an RPG as The Secret of Monkey Island. The real distinction should be between western and eastern adventure games, as that is what they really are.

In video game terms, RPGs are games that involve a form of separate battles taking place with a specialized battle system and the use of a system that increases your power through a form of points.

Sure, what you say is the definition, but the connotation of RPGs is what they are in video games.



Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita

Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you

Xxain on 11 June 2010
dtewi said:
SmoothCriminal said:

In order for a game to be an RPG, it must involve role-playing, something that most JRPGs tend to not have. As far as I'm concerned, Final Fantasy is just as much an RPG as The Secret of Monkey Island. The real distinction should be between western and eastern adventure games, as that is what they really are.

In video game terms, RPGs are games that involve a form of separate battles taking place with a specialized battle system and the use of a system that increases your power through a form of points.

Sure, what you say is the definition, but the connotation of RPGs is what they are in video games.


Amen to that..perfectly said.



ShadowSoldier on 11 June 2010
dtewi said:
SmoothCriminal said:

In order for a game to be an RPG, it must involve role-playing, something that most JRPGs tend to not have. As far as I'm concerned, Final Fantasy is just as much an RPG as The Secret of Monkey Island. The real distinction should be between western and eastern adventure games, as that is what they really are.

In video game terms, RPGs are games that involve a form of separate battles taking place with a specialized battle system and the use of a system that increases your power through a form of points.

Sure, what you say is the definition, but the connotation of RPGs is what they are in video games.

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"In video game terms, RPGs are games that involve a form of separate battles taking place with a specialized battle system and the use of a system that increases your power through a form of points.

Sure, what you say is the definition, but the connotation of RPGs is what they are in video games." - dtewi